Thanks Egon,

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Egon Willighagen <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> I think the example questions you posted are all suitable for the
> existing Blue Obelisk eXchange (BOx). This Q&A is more general about
> chemistry, and not about quantum chemistry in particular, but proper
> tagging can overcome that, I think.
>

The "FAQ" states:

"The Blue Obelisk Exchange is the place to ask about the use and development
of Open Data, Open Source, and Open Standards: how to perform tasks and
solve chemical problems with these, or if an ODOSOS tools is available for
some task. Or even to ask if someone can provide such a tool. The questions
do not require to be about Blue Obelisk solutions itself; they can be about
any ODOSOS chemistry tool, service, or database.

I think this would rule out the majority of questions that the wider
compchem community would ask as they would not involved any OD/OS/OS at all.


> The questions and answers vary in quality, and its community is
> currently not sure about when to jump in and improve existing
> questions. Additionally, it's hard to develop a community where people
> vote up and down questions actively. Even getting people answering to
> up or downvote a question is tricky.
>

Can you expand on this?

>
> However, on the bright site, it's not just the known Blue Obelisk
> addicts who reply. We do have answers showing how closed source tools
> fit in. Indeed, the BOx is also about what ODOSOS tools cannot do yet,
> and how closed and open tools fit into the mixed environments.
> (Seriously, if we start complaining about Blue Obelisk developers
> using proprietary tools (I known of none who are 100% Open), we'd get
> nowhere. They who are without any closed source tool, cast the first
> stone.)
>

No-one is suggesting that the BO operates as religious Open source (In the
OKF we do have people who refuse to use Skype for discussing Open projects
and this makes communication difficult).

>
> Summarizing, the Quixote community would be most welcome to hang out
> on the BOx. If this requires updating texts about the site, let's
> discuss that.
>

If I search the tag "software" I get  6 replies (why is the tag only marked
X1?)
Can anyone suggest a good (free) program for viewing SDF
files?<http://blueobelisk.shapado.com/questions/is-there-a-free-toolkit-to-generate-images-of-chemical-reactions-from-python>
Are there any ODOSOS tools for predicting the products of chemical
reactions?<http://blueobelisk.shapado.com/questions/is-there-a-free-toolkit-to-generate-images-of-chemical-reactions-from-python>
Are there any ODOSOS tools for quantum mechanical
calculations?<http://blueobelisk.shapado.com/questions/is-there-a-free-toolkit-to-generate-images-of-chemical-reactions-from-python>
Is there a free toolkit to generate images of chemical reactions from
Python<http://blueobelisk.shapado.com/questions/software-for-calculation-protein-protein-interaction>
Software for calculation protein-protein
interaction<http://blueobelisk.shapado.com/questions/software-for-calculation-protein-protein-interaction>
Which (open) electronic lab notebook (ELN) tools do you
use?<http://blueobelisk.shapado.com/questions/which-open-electronic-lab-notebook-eln-tools-do-you-use>

The first 4 are  ODOSOS questions, Coupled with the FAQ I think anyone
visiting the site is likely to assume it's only for ODOSOS.

I don't think the current site can evolve seamlessly into something that
supports compchem in general - because it will also have to support all
sorts of other topics. So the options are:
* create a separate site
* rebrand the existing one
* (possibly) split the current one (though I don't know how).

We only really get one chance at this so we should do it well.  I'm neutral
but I'll like to see the arguments

P.


> Egon
>
>
> --
> Dr E.L. Willighagen
> Postdoctoral Researcher
> Institutet för miljömedicin
> Karolinska Institutet (http://ki.se/imm)
> Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/
> LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw
> Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/
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>



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Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
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