On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:37 AM, Robert Hanson <hans...@stolaf.edu> wrote:
> Can someone shed some light on how this brilliant statement:
>
> Rule 3. When two ligands differ only in that one has an atom
> or atom-group of higher rank in a cis-position and the
> other in a trans-position to the core of the stereogenic
> unit, then preference is given to the former.
>
> [Mata, Lobo, et al., J. Chem. Inf. Comput. Sci. 1994, 34, 491-504]
>
> Got turned into this monster?
>
> Rule 3: ... seqcis = 'Z' precedes seqtrans = 'E'.
>
> In other words, rather than being able to assign priority by the very clever
> method of just following the path, one has to actually assign all the
> priorities of the double bonds first (from scratch, presumably, not the
> currently working process) then continue.

No, not even that is sufficient. You can have of course stereo double
bonds determining the fate of an atom stereo center which are
themselves E/Z only by virtue of having substituents which differ only
in R and S - which then need to be determined first to get the double
bond descriptor. You cannot determine atom and bond stereochemistry
independently in the CIP system. This must be a single, repetitive,
interwoven process.

Please keep us posted on your implementation line count ;-)


>
> Or, maybe what I am saying is, they were so close and yet didn't see that it
> could have been so so simple. But no....
>
> [I suppose the writer of this rule is on this list, right?....]
>
>
> Bob
>
>
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>
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> it is better to take what answer we get.
>
> -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900
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