Yes you are both right.

I have just finished the imports To the new vm machine

One should never under estimate the ingenuity of hackers and script kiddies

I speak from experience.  

We couldn't leave the machine as it was, in a perceived compromised position.  
So in has been cmuExport'ed

I will look through the logs see If I can see a problem and then delete the 
original vm machine.

Thanks to all for your help!

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On 12 Dec 2010, at 19:03, "Chuck Tetlow" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I completely agree with Chris - the backdoor that was used to gain access in 
> the first place may still be there.  Plus, any rootkits installed are still 
> there.  THAT is a dangerous situation. 
> 
> I'd recommend keeping that box off-line while you do cmuExports of all sites. 
>  Build a new box and cumImport them all into that new box.  Before you import 
> - make sure that the new box is fully up-to-date to minimize vulnerabilities. 
>  
> 
> And after importing everything/getting it working - make a complete box 
> backup before putting it back on line.  That way, you've got a emergency 
> restore in case it happens again.  After all - the vulnerability/exploit may 
> have been in something in one of those sites.  And as soon as you put it back 
> on line - this could happen again. 
> 
> I'd wait till after I got the box and sites back up - but you need to 
> carefully check the logs to see if you can spot how this happened.  If not - 
> you're just putting that rebuilt box out there and crossing your fingers that 
> it doesn't happen again. 
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck 
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------- 
> From: Chris Gebhardt - VIRTBIZ Internet <[email protected]> 
> To: BlueOnyx General Mailing List <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 12:48:10 -0600 
> Subject: [BlueOnyx:06089] Re: cant run any commands on one of      our     
> BlueOnyxboxes 
> 
> > Peter Robbins - Bridgewater Software Group wrote: 
> > > Not bad for 16 hours continuous work all through the night and next 
> > > day.  Iam off to bed now. 
> > 
> > So if I understand correctly, you loaded in a new /lib and /usr/lib onto 
> > the broken box (or virtual, as the case may be), then put it right back 
> > to work? 
> > 
> > If I haven't missed something that sounds fairly dangerous, especially 
> > if you've not located what caused the issue in the first place.  I hope 
> > you're not in for another round of this. 
> > 
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