Perhaps we can get some folks to work on writing documentation about
how to change the baseline size in a way that works well with
blueprint. I don't see any reason to box blueprint into being an "out-
of-the-box solution", those who want to go further shouldn't have to
discard the whole of the framework.

In the last few days, I've been working with YUI's base.css and
fonts.css. Though, I had to do a lot of customization because we're
using a 14px font with a 20px line height.
Yahoo's YUI has a very interesting approach that gives more
flexibility to the designers while maintaining browser compatibility.
So far I've been able to mix and match it with blueprint's grid and
reset with good results.

chris

(Yes, of course, I'm doing all this in sass ;-)

On Sep 4, 1:34 pm, "Christian Montoya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Subsorama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 4 Sep 2008, at 17:58, Christian Montoya wrote:
>
> >> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:03 AM, spills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>> I am sure this has been approached before but, the default 18px
> >>> baseline height is a horrible multiplier. Why not add 2 lousy pixels
> >>> to make it 20px high? In layouts where I have added the 2px addition,
> >>> they seem to work just fine and in Mac world look better in IMO.
> >>> There
> >>> is an added benefit of making it easier for clients to maintain
> >>> layout
> >>> baseline consistency as they can do math better with 20px rule more
> >>> so
> >>> than the 18px rule especially on really long layouts.
>
> >>> Just my 2 cents.
>
> >>> Thanks
>
> >> Your 2 cents are understood, but the reason for the choice is to
> >> follow the typographic convention of 1.5, where the height of the line
> >> is 1.5 times the height of the text. You could change the line height
> >> to 20 px in your custom stylesheet, but then you wouldn't be able to
> >> impress the typography nerds with your attention to their conventions.
>
> > There is no such convention, if that advice has been proffered to you
> > as a guide it is overly simplistic to the point of simply being bad
> > advice.
>
> Let's just step back for a moment. I wrote some of typography.css, and
> when I did, I followed the conventions discussed on this page:
>
> http://webtypography.net/Rhythm_and_Proportion/Vertical_Motion/2.2.2/
>
> One important thing to understand is that while 12 px text height & 20
> px line height might make it easier to do calculations for page
> designers, Blueprint is not offered as an "out-of-the-box" solution to
> page designers. It is offered as an out-of-the-box solution to people
> who know the very least about design, so as to help them make
> something attractive even if they don't know how.* For page designers,
> they know how to mess with their vertical rhythm, and are free to
> change it as they please.
>
> * This is my view, not the view of the entire core team.
>
> --
> --
> Christian Montoya
> christianmontoya.net
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