On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Subsorama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On 4 Sep 2008, at 21:34, Christian Montoya wrote:
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>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Subsorama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>> On 4 Sep 2008, at 17:58, Christian Montoya wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:03 AM, spills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sure this has been approached before but, the default 18px
>>>>> baseline height is a horrible multiplier. Why not add 2 lousy
>>>>> pixels
>>>>> to make it 20px high? In layouts where I have added the 2px
>>>>> addition,
>>>>> they seem to work just fine and in Mac world look better in IMO.
>>>>> There
>>>>> is an added benefit of making it easier for clients to maintain
>>>>> layout
>>>>> baseline consistency as they can do math better with 20px rule more
>>>>> so
>>>>> than the 18px rule especially on really long layouts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your 2 cents are understood, but the reason for the choice is to
>>>> follow the typographic convention of 1.5, where the height of the
>>>> line
>>>> is 1.5 times the height of the text. You could change the line
>>>> height
>>>> to 20 px in your custom stylesheet, but then you wouldn't be able to
>>>> impress the typography nerds with your attention to their
>>>> conventions.
>>>
>>> There is no such convention, if that advice has been proffered to you
>>> as a guide it is overly simplistic to the point of simply being bad
>>> advice.
>>
>> Let's just step back for a moment. I wrote some of typography.css, and
>> when I did, I followed the conventions discussed on this page:
>>
>> http://webtypography.net/Rhythm_and_Proportion/Vertical_Motion/2.2.2/
>>
>> One important thing to understand is that while 12 px text height & 20
>> px line height might make it easier to do calculations for page
>> designers, Blueprint is not offered as an "out-of-the-box" solution to
>> page designers. It is offered as an out-of-the-box solution to people
>> who know the very least about design, so as to help them make
>> something attractive even if they don't know how.* For page designers,
>> they know how to mess with their vertical rhythm, and are free to
>> change it as they please.
>>
>> * This is my view, not the view of the entire core team.
>
> Okay, the fault might lies with Richard Rutter and his examples. His
> sidenotes example differs from the book in that it states line heights
> must match - whereas in the book the actual sidenotes are set much
> tighter - and you can probably find examples of this everywhere.
> Actually I see this is fixed in fancy type. He is still only providing
> an example though and not single set formula which might be mistaken
> for a convention.
>

OK, I understand that it's not a convention, but you have to admit
that 1.5 works really nicely as a convention because the line-height
always comes out to a whole value when the font-size is an even
number. So if you wanted to change the text size to a base of 14, your
line-height would be 21, and if you wanted it to be 16, your
line-height would be 24. If you have 12/20, or 1.667, then if you
change your font-size to 14, your line height ends up being a decimal,
which may or may not be rounded correctly. It would only come out to a
whole value for font-sizes that are multiples of 3, which gives you
less options.

Just an idea... my point is that 12/18 doesn't make hand calculations
easier but the fact that it's 1.5 makes the whole thing more flexible.

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