Yes exactly.  That way we could provide a set of blocks to be cache with
priority, so the most important bits get cached first.

Aaron

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Ravikumar Govindarajan <
[email protected]> wrote:

> That's a great idea...
>
> You meant like instead of saving blocks themselves, we can store metadata
> {block-ids} for each file/shard in HDFS that is written to block-cache...
>
> Opening a shard can then use this metadata to re-populate the hot parts of
> the files...
>
> We also need to handle evictions & file-deletes...
>
> Is this what you are hinting at?
>
> --
> Ravi
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Aaron McCurry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 6:30 AM, Ravikumar Govindarajan <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I noticed in BigTable impl of Cassandra where they store the "Memtable"
> > > info periodically onto disk to avoid cold start-ups...
> > >
> > > Is it possible to do something like that for Blur's block-cache,
> > preferably
> > > in HDFS itself so that both cold start-ups and shard take-overs don't
> > > affect end-user latencies...
> > >
> > > In Cassandra's case, the size of Memtable will typically be 2GB-4GB.
> But
> > in
> > > case of Blur, it could even be100 GB. So I don't know if attempting
> such
> > > stuff is good idea.
> > >
> > > Any help is appreciated much...
> > >
> >
> > Yeah I agree that caches could be very large and storing in HDFS could be
> > counter productive.  Also the block cache represents what is on the
> single
> > node and it's not really broken up by shard or table.  So if a node was
> > restarted without a full cluster restart there's no guarantee that the
> > shard server will get the same shards back that it was serving before.
> >
> > I like the idea though, perhaps we can write out what parts of what files
> > the cache was storing with the lru order.  Then any server that is
> opening
> > the shard can know what parts of what files were hot the last time it was
> > open.  Then they could choose to populate the cache upon shard opening.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ravi
> > >
> >
>

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