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Today's topics: * 1 new message in 1 topic - digest - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/69f766495e132969 * Information in Hindi - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/16a12474ed5a5cbf * 4 new messages in 4 topics - digest - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/ef6492588037908c ============================================================================== TOPIC: 1 new message in 1 topic - digest http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/69f766495e132969 ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Sun, Jan 1 2006 8:34 pm From: Harsha here i'm attaching a study and little bit of scientific work that was carried on how reservations helped / deprieved economically backward people. i've been observing most discussion is going on mere perceptions and emotions in idealistic ways. please do some research before airing your views. i sense reservations are going to be norm, we have to live with it. i'm looking at what percentage of total indian population is eligible for reservations, it's stunning fact, 54% of people are OBC, 17% SC and 5% ST (2001 census). supreme court put an upper sealing of 50% on total reservations. (which is far less than their total percentages together). so it shouldn't hardly matter for people like me who are not eligible for reservations. there may be a case where most of us without reservations compete, while those in reservation brackets struggle to make it. i see opportunity for those huge percentage of people to rise and contribute to the nation building. society means not just you and me, every head counts. harsha On 12/31/05, BM_discussion group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BM_discussion > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion > [email protected] > > Today's topics: > > * 104th Constitutional amendment - 1 messages, 1 author > > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/ce5018d1c3de9c5a > > ============================================================================== > TOPIC: 104th Constitutional amendment > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/ce5018d1c3de9c5a > ============================================================================== > > == 1 of 1 == > Date: Fri, Dec 30 2005 10:10pm > From: "amit hargude" > > hi, > Mr. Shaswat, u have raised a good point about the reservation of the > caste system in india. it is benefitting people of the these > caste(sc,st,bc etc..), but in a wrong way. its not just limited in > school level but each n every govt. run services. because of this > reservation many deserving people from students to govt. officers, are > suffering(me being a student have gone through it). times have changed > today the class system have benifitted them so much that everything is > easy for them. i dont say that it should totally removed, but we can > apply conditions on it. reservation can also be done on the basis of > income. > > disclaimer : i am extremly sorry if i have said anything which has hurt > anyone, but i had to say what was goin in my mind, my intentions was > not to hurt anyone. > > regards > amit hargude > > > > > ============================================================================== > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BM_discussion" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] or visit > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To change the way you get mail from this group, visit: > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/subscribe > > To report abuse, send email explaining the problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ============================================================================== > Google Groups: http://groups.google.com > ============================================================================== TOPIC: Information in Hindi http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/16a12474ed5a5cbf ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Sun, Jan 1 2006 9:54 am From: "????? ?????" ??? ???? ???? ============================================================================== TOPIC: 4 new messages in 4 topics - digest http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/ef6492588037908c ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Mon, Jan 2 2006 7:35 am From: promodchawla Comments on - without prejudice - Judiciary + Bureaucrats realistic - do tackle the mess thru Lateral Thinking, like never before - promod BM_discussion group wrote: > > BM_discussion > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion > [email protected] > > Today's topics: > > * theservice industry in social servicve sector should improve manyfold! - 1 > messages, 1 author > > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/898eb12b58c37b49 > * openion on Reservation - 1 messages, 1 author > > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/478e32f1cdcd19dd > * Information in Hindi - 1 messages, 1 author > > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/16a12474ed5a5cbf > * INDEPENDENCE - Under Siege - 1 messages, 1 author > > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/2f947625ac26f010 > > ============================================================================== > TOPIC: theservice industry in social servicve sector should improve manyfold! > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/898eb12b58c37b49 > ============================================================================== > > == 1 of 1 == > Date: Sat, Dec 31 2005 6:42 pm > From: purushothaman pillai > > ============================================================================== > TOPIC: openion on Reservation > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/478e32f1cdcd19dd > ============================================================================== > > == 1 of 1 == > Date: Sun, Jan 1 2006 5:59 am > From: "Mayank S. Chauhan" > > Respected Member, > I want to say some words in the reference of Reservation System > applying by the goverment. I think that today system is full of mistakes and > not able to provide the basic good things to people. it should be changed. I > think that the people of reserved category should be provided all economical, > literatural facility for getting the best education in their life. but always > the condition to take a admission or a job should be based totaly on > eligibilty. Eligible candidates should be taken not the candidates of > reserved category. But if a candidate of reserved category has the > eligibility than he/she should be taken. another point should be came in > light that basis of reservation should be changed from the birth in the > reserved category to the income basis of their family. > My openion is of mine and i dont want to hurt anyone. > with best regards and i wish a very very Happy New Year to all the members > of Bharat Uday Mission. > Jai Hind. > Mayank Singh > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com > > ============================================================================== > TOPIC: Information in Hindi > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/16a12474ed5a5cbf > ============================================================================== > > == 1 of 1 == > Date: Sun, Jan 1 2006 12:33 am > From: Sanjay Bapna > > I suggest that all information of BM be available in HINDI as well through a > prominent link so that it can be accessed by common man. We can ask people > who do not understand english to look at our activities and know what we are > trying to do so that our support base may increase. > > Sanjay Bapna. > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less > > ============================================================================== > TOPIC: INDEPENDENCE - Under Siege > http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/2f947625ac26f010 > ============================================================================== > > == 1 of 1 == > Date: Sun, Jan 1 2006 12:41 am > From: Sanjay Bapna > > Dear Members, > > This is an article I wrote a few years back. Its my personal view and I > thought of sharing the same with you all. Please do care to send me your > feedback on the same. > > Regards. > > Sanjay Bapna. > > INDEPENDENCE under siege > > Its been more than half a century since we attained independence. We > achieved independence after a struggle and sacrifice of hundreds of thousands > of people. Along with independence we changed our political system, from a > colonial rule and feudalism to a parliamentary form of government, where > sharing of power amongst the people was the principle. There was a government > of the people, for the people and by the people. People from all classes, > castes, religion came into political mainstream and shared power. > > We made the finest constitution that could be. > > But today there is little we can be proud of. > > Today the fruits of progress and prosperity still remain a distant dream > for majority of our people. This was not the dream of our leaders who fought > against the mighty British empire and this is certainly not the India of our > dreams where our people do not have clean, pure and safe drinking water, > where there is no electricity for either cooking a decent meal or for > students to study, roads full of potholes to ply on, with a collapsing public > transport system, where hospitals are the most unhygienic places, health care > is beyond common mans reach, where politicians conspire with criminals, > where people die of hunger with godowns overflowing with food grains, where > people involved in scams one after the other live as respectful citizens, > where the taxmen think themselves to be Gods and respectful businessmen as > thieves, rivers overflowing with dirt and filth, where there is absolute > distrust between government employees and public. > > The administrative and the judicial system of the country has failed the > aspirations of our great leaders. Mahatma Gandhi, Sardar Patel, Pundit Nehru > never would have imagined in their dreams that a free Indian would not get > justice even for decades or the administration would not care for the > downtrodden. A common man has to spend a fortune and run from pillar to post > to get even the smallest of work done. The judicial and our bureaucratic > systems need to be reviewed and reformed. > > The bureaucracy was designed and trained for the commercial exploitation of > India and the Indian people by the British Raj. Their job was to generate > wealth for the Queen of England. They were not trained either for the > development of India or for the upliftment of the Indian masses. Britishers > established inspector raj, empowered with rules and regulation to throttle > Indians as and when they wanted, and thwart progress. They wanted us to be at > their beck and call, always. They created hurdles at every step to hamper > growth. The entire system was evolved on distrust of Indians. The British had > an insensitive, manipulative and autocratic bureaucracy, which exists even > today and still seems to be living in the colonial period. It was given all > the possible power and authority with no responsibility. The cultural > heritage continues. > > Similarly the judicial system was never designed to provide justice to the > Indian people. A system of court after court and appeal after appeal was > established which became a never ending process, where it is not sure if > justice would be done even to the next generation of litigant. In spite of > hundreds of thousands of cases pending in our courts, the judiciary goes on > vacations years after year. There are increasing allegations of corruption in > the judiciary. The courts close on the smallest of events, leaving innocent > citizens crying for justice. > > What we need is system analysis and design to ease life of the common man. > > It is high time the political leadership took cognizance of these facts and > not blame the loss of elections on anti-establishment factors. This is what > is the establishment and people of India want to get rid of it. > > > Sanjay Bapna. > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Shopping > Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! 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