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Today's topics: * hind swaraj or indian home rule-- part I - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/7e673b68c405db5a * Where are our patroits - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/9d858c031e5be304 * d best way to make your country educated & child labour free - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/33a3980fc7a8f9c7 ============================================================================== TOPIC: hind swaraj or indian home rule-- part I http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/7e673b68c405db5a ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Wed, Jul 19 2006 2:02 pm From: "vivek claire" Hind Swaraj or Indian Home Rule M.K. Gandhi 1910 Translated into English by M.K. Gandhi Being a Translation of 'Hind Swaraj' (Indian Home Rule), published in the Gujarat columns of Indian Opinion. 11th and 18th Dec., 1909 Preface to the English translation It is not the without hesitation that the translation of 'Hind Swaraj' is submitted to the public. A European friend with whom I discussed the contents, wanted to see a translation of it and, during our spare moments, I hurriedly dictated and he took it down. It is not a literal translation but it is a faithful rendering of the original. Several English friends have read it, and whilst opinions were being invited as to the advisability of publishing the work, news was received that the original was seized in India. This information hastened the decision to publish the translation without a moment's delay. My fellow-workers at the International Printing Press shared my view and, by working overtime a labour of love they have enabled me to place the translation before the public in an unexpectedly short time. The work is being given to the public at what is practically cost-price. But, without the financial assistance of the many Indians who promised to buy copies for themselves and for distribution, it might never have seen the light of day. I am quite aware of the many imperfections in the original. The English rendering, besides sharing these, must naturally exaggerate them, owing to my inability to convey the exact meaning of the original. Some of the friends who have read the translation have objected that the subject matter has been dealt with in the form of a dialogue. I have no answer to offer to this objection except that the Gujarati language readily lends itself to such treatment and that it is considered the best method of treating difficult subjects. Had I written for English readers in the first instance, the subject would have been handled in a different manner. Moreover, the dialogue, as it has been given, actually took place between several friends, mostly readers of Indian Opinion, and myself. Whilst the views expressed in 'Hind Swaraj' are held by me, I have but endeavoured humbly to follow Tolstoy, Ruskin, Thoreau, Emerson and other writers, besides the masters of Indian philosophy. Tolstoy has been one of my teachers for a number of years. Those who want to see a corroboration of the views submitted in the following chapters, will find it in the works of the above named masters. For ready reference, some of the books are mentioned in the Appendices. I do not know only 'Hind Swaraj' has been seized in India. To me, the seizure constitutes further condemnation of the civilisation represented by the British Government. There is in the book not a trace of approval of violence in any shape or form. The methods of the British Government are, undoubtedly, severely condemned. To do otherwise would be for me to be a traitor to Truth, to India, and to the Empire to which I own allegiance. My notion of loyalty does not involve acceptance of current rule or government irrespective of its righteousness or otherwise. Such notion is based upon the belief - not in its present justice or morality but -in a future acceptance by governments of that standard of morality in practice which it at present vaguely and hypocritically believes in, in theory. But I must frankly confess that I am not so much concerned about the stability of the Empire as I am about that of the ancient civilisation of India, which, in my opinion, represents the best that the world has ever seen. The British Government in India constitutes a struggle between the Modern Civilisation, which is the Kingdom of Satan, and the Ancient Civilisation, which is the Kingdom of God. The one is the God of War, the other is the God of Love. My countrymen impute the evils of modern civilisation to the English people are bad, and not the civilisation they represent. My countrymen, therefore, believe that they should adopt modern civilisation and modern methods of violence to drive out the English. 'Hind Swaraj' has been written in order to show that they are following a suicidal policy, and that, if they would but revert to their own glorious civilisation, either the English would adopt the latter and become Indianised or find their occupation in India gone. It was at first intended to publish the translation as a part of Indian Opinion, but the seizure of the original rendered such a course inadvisable. Indian Opinion represents the Transvaal Passive Resistance struggle and ventilates the grievances of British Indians in South Africa generally. It was, therefore, thought desirable not to publish through a representative organ, views which are held by me personally and which may even be considered dangerous or disloyal. I am naturally anxious not to compromise a great struggle by any action of mine which has no connection with it. Had I not known that there was a danger of methods of violence becoming popular, even in South Africa, had I not been called upon by hundreds of my countrymen, and not a few English friends, to express my opinion on the Nationalist movement in India, I would even have refrained, for the sake of the struggle, from reducing my views to writing. But, occupying the position I do, it would have been cowardice on my part to postpone publication under the circumstances just referred to M. K. Gandhi Johannesburg March 20th, 1910 ============================================================================== TOPIC: Where are our patroits http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/9d858c031e5be304 ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Wed, Jul 19 2006 6:52 pm From: "Information Team Bharat Uday Mission" There is a message from Gopal krishna ji:- Dear friends, here are the innermost feelings of my heart. I pray, u feel in these words, why BM was started and why many of us will willingly sacrifice all our personal goals for the mission, prepared for all hardships, ready to face even death with a smile on our faces for the sake of humanity. I will request u to try to feel, what u must feel as a noble human being and a true patriot : (most of these census data have been taken from India Economy by Dutta and Sundaram : a very reliable book). in India, 1. 47% of children under 5 r underwieght due to malnutrition : just see in ur small child or the child of ur brother or sister, one of those children and u will feel "why BM" !!! 2. around 2.5 crores Indians r homeless, sleeping on streets: can we like to be one of those ? 3. just see this photo : http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0804/p11s01-wosc.html A disabled boy begs on a suburban train. : just imagine that boy is ur own son or brother : will u neglect him to a life of begging, humiliation and starvation : if not, then why not extend the same sensitivity for millions of such children in our country: do we mean to keep our sensitivity, love and sense of duty to just our so-called blood family. have we forgotten that "insaniyat se bada koi rishta nahi hota hai". 4. India has the greatest number of leprosy cases (estimated to be around 250000 ) - leprocy is a curable disease. When u see those disabled limbs, what do u feel : a curable disease and our people lose their limbs to live a life of begging and agonies : what the generation of our fathers and grandfathers have been doing with this society in last 59 years of Independence ??? 5. and our child labour population is : the Government of India reports about 20 million children laborers, other non-governmental organizations estimate the number to be closer to 50 million. I ask just one question, will u accept ur child as a child labour ? 6. 70% of Indians have no access to proper sanitation. 7. 49% of Indians have no access to life-saving drugs : 50 crores without effective medical care. Just die in tears of agony and see ur children dying, whenever a petty curable disease, attacks them!!! 8. and a huge heartache : 300 millions people living below poverty line defined at Rs. 300 per month : simply starve to a slow death and die if any disease occur. Even animals don't starve unless there is a natural calamity, like famines and 300 millions of our brethren r starving without any natural calamities: we have made them worse than even animals and yet we talk of our being a patriot and "India shining or a superpower India" !!! Is poverty a crime and if it is, the criminals r not the people born into poor families, but we, the educated people, who have simply become incapable of thinking beyond our masses of bones and flesh. I find no reason to blame poorer sections of the society for any problem : they lack education and awareness : it was the duty of we, the educated people, to uplift them because we have both education and awareness. But we could not do so in last 59 years of indepedence. WHY? WHY? WHY? i find only one reason: excessive obsession with personal goals and our little blood family, at the cost of shameless slaughter of our social consciousness. But what is the way ahead : just reverse the tide of selfishenss and cowardice to lead a life of complete selflessness and matchless courage. I challenge everyone to tell us a non-political means, through which we can wipe out the poverty, illiteracy, diseases of our masses. Even the president of Bill and Melinda Foundation (the largest NGO in the world with 20+ billion $ money), Senior Gates, said in interview to Hindu : "we can give only prototypes, which government must emulate at large scale. Without role of government, our efforts are nothing, because we don't have that much human and financial resourses" . through NGO or trust, we can't attain our goals of a poverty-free India at all, hence we chose a less-travelled path of a political party, which will combine electoral politics and social work, and thus, do maximum social service to our motherland, attaining all social goals, for which so many freedom-fighters sacrificed their lives.. I appeal to all of you: 1. If you feel fully (either u feel or u don't feel : if u don't feel, noone can make u feel : few things r for heart and not for head) that the salvation of the land lies in maximum social service through supreme personalification of service and renunciation in personal lives, I ask u for complete renunciation fo personal goals : finish all ur utmost crucuial family responsibilities soon and come to join BM fulltime. if u r bachelor, remain a bachelor celibate whole life, because in this mission, we will face much hardships and may even have to face death : does these words of hardships and death, dampened or enthused u ? if they dampened u, then, these words are not for u. IF they enthused u, be our life-partner and as a pledge to this resolve to dedicate whole life to the Mission, join our yahoo-group BM_fulltime by sending a blank mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or through yahoo-id here, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bm_fulltime and please give ur details here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bharatudaymission/database?method=addRecord&tbl=14 Why I am asking those of u, who r willing to join BM fulltime in future after fulfilling all crucial family responsibilites, and r bachelor , to take vow of lifelong bachlor celibacy is because of the following: at a tender age of 7-8 In class 2-3, i was inspired by martyrdom by thousands during freedom struggle, about which I learnt while preparing for a freedom struggle speech for 15th August school celebration. The ideal for sacrificing everything and even embrace death with smile on the path of national service, has been absolutely firm in the mind since then and will always remain so : we will use all our intelligence to save our cadres and leaders from political violence, but there is no foolproof way : in my district in Bihar, whoever honest person, stood for election of Sarpanch, was killed in last 10 years : suppose, in future, I fell to bullets in this war ( a possibility, which we can minimise but never eliminate, at least not in some of the states like UP, Bihar, despite the best use of head) : in this scenario, which is better : to leave 1-2 fatherless children and one widow or to leave no fatherless children and widow due to the great patriotic merit of bachelor celibacy. IF these words dampen u, then u r not one which will become leaders of this Mission. I promise, we will avoid all criminal areas in initial phase; if needed, will provide armed protection to our leaders as per funds-availability, use informal networking with honest beureucrats and media for our protection and last, but not the least, our celibate fulltime memebrs will be the ones to be sent for leading in politically violent areas and not our married fulltime members. Also, celibacy is not difficult: when I entered IITK 4 years ago, I was in great trauma : how i will follow celibacy whole life (the vow was taken in class 5-6 itself, when I reflected how much marriage can damage the "ready to live, ready to die for one's ideals" type of people by seeing the marriage of my sister - a child generally understand anything by observing them first time), it is so difficult, something like mental torture to control this animal instinct (called as natural instinct by misguided elements) , but since my resolve was firm, God guided me to Yoga Sadhana and now, celibacy seems to be very natural, quite easy. Doing bahya Pranayam is infallible way to destroy lustful thoughts at once (please read http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BM_fulltime/message/495 on this great technique ) and doing asanas like Siddhasan (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BM_fulltime/message/495) and Mula Badha (http://www.yoga-age.com/modern/mudras.html ) will wipe this animal instinct from roots: and i m sure, everyone can maintain whole life celibacy easily and joyously using these technique daily for min. 20 minutes and become the fittest case for "ready to live, ready to die for one's ideals" type of people. And no need to worry about futile logic : "It is our duty to maintain progeny" - Buddha, Vivekananda, Newton, Shankaracharya, Ramakrishna Paramahansa, and so many great men, did not maintain progeny : what does it matter, if our progeny or for that matter our father's progeny is not maintained. We, the fulltime members, will give our all for this great Mission : we will optimise the chance for a poverty-free, corruption-free, iliteracy-free and backwardness-free India and finally, the whole world (includign African and other poor nations), by our hearts' blood . Insaah Allah, we will wipe every tear from every eye. Even from our ashes, the fragrance of true love for the humanity will come. And lastly, I will appeal to all those, who can't join us fulltime, but want to otherwise, optimise their contribution tio the Mission to do the following: 1. Live a simple life : if u can manage by a car of 3 lakh, never buy car of 10 or 20 lakh. If u can manage by a home of 10 lakh, never have a home of 50 lakh or 1 crore. Save each rupee and use them for upliftment of the poorest people. Contribute financially and intellectually to BM as much as u can : we, fulltime memebrs, r willing to embrace even death, so u should at least, help financially as much as u can : we r ur own brother , ur own son : won't u prepare us, all fulltime members, to win this war for humanity through ur sincerest help, even though we r ready for even defeat and martyrdom for the sake of humanity. 2. Bring this Mission to the notice of every person, who is honest and patriotic. 3. Always help everyone in need : empty talks don't make us a patriot or good human being, it is our noble feelings and deeds for our fellow beings, that make us so. I pray, u all feel the real spirit of our Mission fully. Vande Matram, In service of the humanity, Gopal BM_fulltime group. -- With love, Gopal Krishna B. Tech Computer Science IIT Kanpur 'Those who condemn politics to be the last resort of a scoundrel are bound to be ruled by scoundrels' - Plato If you agree with above quote, then be a part of second freedom struggle of India, Bharat Uday Mission, at http://bharatudaymission.org "We have only one passion, The rise of a Great Nation." 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Gupta" *we all keep talking about things & we don't do anything. at most we are ready to hold a march.. a protest rally.. but hey.. aren't we forgetting something. we can do much more with our own money... our own hands.. we can shape the future of this country..* *how ???* *read on .................* The best thing we can do sitting at home for the general welfare of this nation is to adopt one kid. one normal or one handicapped also if possible. Here adoption may not neccessarily mean taking him home & keeping him/her in your house.. but each one of us can take one kid.. who is not already studying anywhere is totally on roads.. living his life by working somewhere or by begging. we can bear his expenses of education & while frequently meeting him .. our effort shall be to make him an honest citizen. i give this suggestion becuz i strongly believe when it comes to good deeds.. then charity must start at home.. i have already spoken to my parents.. & they are more or less agreeing. i need their permission becuz i dont earn anything as of now.. i will see from where i can adopt one & bear his expenses. but now i am planning to go ahead with it. and also.. i will prefer that one shall adopt a boy. becuz i came to know from one adoption agency that now a days more & more girls are being adopted & BOYS are in much worse condition however it always your own wish>>> please note.. adopt a kid.. who is already not studying anywhere. take him to best school you can possibly afford & bear his expenses. we need educated class.. why can't we spend money for it when we bear so much taxes. lets come forward for a good deed lets make our country.. child labour free & an educated one. *what you all say guys ??* -- Sumit K. 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