Ray
It would be a brave person in this day and age that set up an examination room 
without ensuring that it was wired as a body protected area. If an electric 
bed/couch is included this is all the more reason to do so and these devices 
pose a high risk of shock with their established track record of damage to 
mains cables and the problems that flow on from that.

It would also be a fairly safe assumption that at some point in the future 
something more than a stethoscope would get used in the room. We have too many 
cases here in this hospital where the simple docs office has evolved into a 
minor procedures room that now has a whole host of medical electrical equipment.

Adrian

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From: Byrnes, Owen [mailto:owen.byr...@ncahs.health.nsw.gov.au]
Sent: Monday, 4 May 2009 08:48
To: Coles, John; Ray Bowles
Cc: bmelist@bme.asn.au
Subject: RE: [bmelist] Re' Body Protected area or not.

Hello John and Ray,

AS/NZS 3003:2003 has a definition (1.4.16) for a "Patient Area".

Note (1) of this definition states "All PATIENT AREAS shall be BODY-PROTECTED 
or CARDIAC-PROTECTED ELECTRICAL AREAS (refer 2.1)."

Note (2) of this definition states "For hospitals the PATIENT AREA would 
normally include areas where the PATIENT may be located for treatment, 
diagnosis or accommodation, including wards, PATIENT bathrooms and PATIENT 
holding areas. Transit areas such as corridors and lifts would not normally be 
included."

My interpretation of these definition notes has been that any patient area with 
a power outlet, needs the leakage protection of at least a body protected area 
(excluding the nominated transit areas).

Cheers,
Owen.


Owen Byrnes
North Coast Area Health Service
Mob: 0417484542


________________________________
From: Coles, John [mailto:john.co...@petermac.org]
Sent: Friday, 1 May 2009 10:24 AM
To: Ray Bowles; bmelist@bme.asn.au
Subject: RE: [bmelist] Re' Body Protected area or not.

Ray et al,

AS/NZS 3003 applies to patient areas in which "medical electrical equipment" 
will be used.
Medical electrical equipment is defined in AS/NZS 3200 as "electrical 
equipment.....intended to diagnose, treat or monitor the patient.... and which 
makes physical or electrical contact with the patient and/or transfers energy 
to or from the patient......"

I think that if the patient makes contact with the electric bed/couch it should 
be a body protected area.

Regards

John Coles Ph D
Deputy Director, Physical Sciences
Peter MacCallum Cancer Institute
St Andrews Place
East Melbourne Vic. 3002
Australia
Phone +613 9656 1253
Fax +613 9650 4870
E-mail john.co...@petermac.org




 From: Ray Bowles [mailto:ray.bow...@gvhealth.org.au]
Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2009 3:41 PM
To: bmelist@bme.asn.au
Subject: [bmelist] Re' Body Protected area or not.



Hello all.

We have a new area nearly completed which has Interview/consulting rooms. Each 
room will have an electric bed/couch.

Should it be classified as a Body protected area or not?

Comments?

To some it may be obvious but to others open to interpretation.

regards

Ray Bowles.

Biomedical Engineering
Goulburn Valley Health
Graham St
Shepparton, 3630

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M  0407 322 037
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