[uucdigest] Wednesday, June 27 2001 Volume 03 : Number 3934 _________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.gis.nsw.gov.au/staff/rnott/bmw/bmw.html | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] RE: Has BMW lost its way [Justin Sokolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [uuc] 88 735i Head gasket repair ["David A. Leonard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]] RE: [uuc] DEC catalytic converter ["Money, Jack (J.J.)" <jmoney@visteon.] [uuc] BMW Films. "The Star". [Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] RE: [uuc] Smells funny in here ["Wil Birkmaier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] BMW Films. "The Star". ["Gilbert Hoffman" <gil_a_monster@hotmai] [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #3932 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Re: [uuc] BMW Films. "The Star". [Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] <FS>: E34 M5 sport seats [Jerry Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Has BMW design lost its way? [Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@mon] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:48:06 -0400 From: Justin Sokolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: Has BMW lost its way I passed a white E46 M3 going home from work last night, and thought to myself "they really got that one right" (from the aesthetic aspect, I haven't had the pleasure of driving one yet). I concur with previous sentiments that the 740i sport looks great - It's the best looking 7 series in years. But I say in years because I can't get over my E23. It's beautiful. The paint isn't as bright as it once was, it has a couple dents and scratches, but I can (and do) look at it for extended periods of time just admiring the design. Why don't I feel the same way about an E32 or any newer model? Where did the character go in BMWs design? Don't get me wrong, I love all BMWs, but I think post 1988 (except E36 & E46) got much less "soulful". Or I just might be crazy. If BMW announced a new design like the CS, or any of the aerodynamics-be-damned models from the '80s, that would be amazing. I almost bought an E12 M535i that needed a couple serious repairs just because it was so beautiful and, well, I'd own an M535i. The new E60 (or what I've seen of it) is a sick joke. Would someone please give the people who designed them a fresh sheet of paper and some dignity? Bring back the shark nose. Justin Sokolowski 1985 735i (for sale) 1978 280SE Euro (for sale) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:51:58 -0400 From: "David A. Leonard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] 88 735i Head gasket repair Put a new head gasket in the old 735i this week.. Pulled it found a blown gasket.. Machine shop checked it out, cleaned it, and pronounced it too tight to do anything to! $100.00- for cleaning and vac check. $200 for gaskets..What do you think three days of my time is worth(no comments from the peanut gallery please). Anyway..put it all back together..him no run good. Idle like s***! Felt like an ignition problem..could't see an obvious spark plug or wire problem..new cap and rotor...convinced myself there was a " one tooth off " timing chain problem..Book sez timing bolts "vertical" I thought this means parrallel to engine centerline..so that was how I set it..no marks on the big six cam schprocket! Both Bentley and Haynes say "vertical..Well boys and girls..these Bimmers are "Slant Sixes" ..and Vertical with the engine in the car is a few teeth to the right of vertical when you line up with engine centerline.... So I sez.."okay, I'll try to see if "Vertical" works"..Take it all apart..Remove timing chain sprocket..guess what..there is no WAY the valves and the pistons are not going to hit each other with the Bolts "vertical.." That was an extra 4 hours work.. The book only applies if you have the engine on an engine stand..with the centerline of the engine perpendicular to the floor!! Both books are wrong..!! So I put it all back together.( exactly the way I had it in the first place).and when I look REAL close at one of the plugs (probly the one I dropped while back) I notice that the center electrode insulator is broken, and when you turn the plug over..The insulator slides down over the gap!!! How that for a mystery problem. The mysterious disappearing gap!! The good side of this time wasting exercise was that the # six cyl head bolts took about 10 lbs more torque after the hot run/retorque, and I set all the valves a little looser , found the ignition /plug problem, replaced my A/C condenser, fixed a leaky hose, and recharged with R134..an evil "drop in recharge":... Changed nothing..my compresser is an r-12 unit..the logic being that if it doesn't last, I'll be replacing the compressor anyway. Seems to blow almost as cold as the R-12..and I didn't lose $250.00 worth of freon to find the leak. By the way, Zygmunt, In PA has the best pricing on A/C condensers..$179.00 The windshield has 0 deductible, and it was cracked, so that was replaced in my driveway by a glass service. I have a new Aux fan from auto zone on the new condenser, a new radiator, new waterpump, new head gasket, dist cap and rotor, and a good running sled..total cost for all this madness was about $1400.00 in parts... By the way, my buddy, the dealer mechanic(who I saw in a strip joint, and invested $20.00 in a "floor dance" with one of the strippers for..) (Ally for life now!..Money well spent), pointed out that if you leave the intake manifold in the car..there are about 20 things that don't have to be disconnected..major time savings..The Fuel injection, the throttle and shift and cruise cables, assorted wiring harnesses, and the head is a lot easier to lift! The conundrum is that I should sell the old girl now that she has 225k on her..but now she's fixed..how can I sell her! Dave Leonard Now if I could just find the short in the power windows of the 325IC.(91 e30).takes out a 30 amp fuse..but so intermittent..about every two months..anyone have any ideas? Some day I'm gonna buy a new car, and stop all this juvenile hot rod repair! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Porath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 12:03 AM Subject: How's yer head? > Ya fix it yet? Need help? Wanna just go for a boat ride? > > Jon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:04:26 -0400 From: "Money, Jack (J.J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] DEC catalytic converter Hi Kirk, So do you guys sell them then? Also, I've heard it mentioned that the DEC loses a bit of power over stock, any thoughts on this? Anyway, I'm shopping around and I want to do something within the next month for sure. Thanks for the info. Jack - -----Original Message----- From: Eurowerks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] DEC catalytic converter Jack, I have used D.E.C. for many years. The fit is usually very good and the finish is o.k. As to weight, anything you put on there other than stock is lighter. The D.E.C. unit is not as pretty as the stocker, but who really cares? Function over fashion anyday!!! I have been using them on customers cars for quite some time. The last one that I replaced was about $300.00 to the customer, compared to $2650.00 for the O.E. BMW unit. No extra noise, less weight, and a trunk load of money left over. How can one go wrong? "Money, Jack (J.J.)" wrote: > Is anyone out there running a DEC catalytic converter? I'm just trying to > get impressions/opinions on them. Also interested in any data that might be > out there with respect to flow vs. stock and weight vs. stock. Specifically > I'm interested in E30 M3 but any info would be great. Thanks. > > Jack Money - -- Kirk A. Gilchrist EURO-WERKS / Mercedes Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 859-745-0125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.euromajic.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:13:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] BMW Films. "The Star". Gruppe: I finally put my 28.8 kbps connection on the overnight grind and downloaded the 28 MB movie. I would say it and the first one are the best so far. Very nice and it has the M5. One question though: Is the Star meant to be Madonna? It looks like her a lot (teeth, moles, etc.). Also, they do not give her name in the credits either at the beginning or the end. OK, I admit I did not catch it, my fiancee did, but I'm curious. Neil Deshpande http://www.neilwerke.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:42:00 -0400 From: "Wil Birkmaier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Smells funny in here I believe it is from the cat under your car, and no, not the one you probably hit on the way back.... Wil Wil Birkmaier Systems Administrator BEA Systems 271 Waverly Oaks Rd Waltham, MA 02452 781.472.3294 - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robinson, Lee Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 11:46 AM To: 'M3SIG'; 'UUCDigest' Subject: [uuc] Smells funny in here Everybody, While driving back from SIGfest on Monday, I noticed an acrid sulfur smell when on throttle. It wasn't always perceptible, and I know that other cars (esp. Japanese) puke out this smell. But i noticed it a lot more often than usual. What are possible sources for an odor such as this from the M3? Or did I just maybe (hopefully) get some funky re-formualted gas in VA, MD or NJ? Thanks, Lee 88 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:50:51 From: "Gilbert Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW Films. "The Star". Neil asks: >One question though: Is the Star meant to be Madonna? The star IS Madonna. Not sure if she is meant to be playing herself. Allthough I heard of a recent Guy Ritchie interview where he described his new wife similar to the character in the film. (And he did co-write the script.) Gilbert _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:03:17 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #3932 In a message dated 6/27/01 10:01:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << And a number of people have asked to join.. >> Don, Let me have an idea of the activity level. Would you like this effort publicized in the Roundel? Michel Potheau BMW CCA Executive Vice President. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:01:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW Films. "The Star". On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Neil Deshpande wrote: > One question though: Is the Star meant to be Madonna? > It looks like her a lot (teeth, moles, etc.). Also, > they do not give her name in the credits either at the > beginning or the end. OK, I admit I did not catch it, > my fiancee did, but I'm curious. I've been told that Guy Ritchie, the director of Star, is Madonna's husband, so it's probably quite likely. I noticed the resemblance, too, but didn't see her credited. It's my favorite movie so far too, except for the car jumping. I wish someone would shoot a driving sequence with rally-style jumping (car sideways or rotating in the air), instead of these fake-looking car jumping cliches. Also, was it just me, or was that conscious product placement in how the ///M gear knob on the shifter was never covered by the driver's hand? - --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:05:56 -0700 From: Jerry Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <FS>: E34 M5 sport seats As work on "restoring" my '91 M5 continues, I've decided I just can't live without a set of leather-covered Recaro SRDs, so the stock sport seats are for sale: Hard to find '91 M5 electric sport seats ======================================== When removed last year, all functions operational; light gray leather; passenger side leather in good-to-very good condition; driver side leather in fair condition, with bolster wear (really should be recovered). These things are bulky, so I *really* don't want to ship them... NorCal folks, please. I'm in Santa Clara, can deliver a reasonable distance. Sorry, no pics at this time. Don't really know what they're worth, so will throw out a number: $700/OBO. Please reply directly. Thanks, - -jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:06:02 -0400 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Has BMW design lost its way? Aleksandr said: >At 8:25 AM +0100 on 6/26/01, Alex Chia commanded the electrons to >create a missive titled "[uuc] Has BMW design lost its way?": >|What do you guys think of the the recent direction of >|BMW car design? Snipped.. >When the E39 came out, the first thing my wife said was "It looks >like a big 3. The old 5's looked like little 7's." That was my reaction also, although I now have an E39 (not necessarily for looks, although owning it - the looks grow on you.. :-) I always liked the looks of the E34.. classy looking sedan. I owned one so I might be prejudiced. >Now, my first thought when I saw the E65 was "It looks like a giant >E46." People have compared it to the Volvo S80, but the S80 is, IMHO, >far more distinctive. I think without seeing it in person, it's hard to tell. The general lines are more voluptuous than the E38 series, and it may be a case of the styling of the M-Coupe, which IMHO never photographs well. >As I was walking into the office today after lunch, I walked past an >E39 parked next to an E46. I had walked past the second before I >realized that it was indeed a 3er, and not a second E39. BTDT, but I've gotten better at it since I own one. Strangely, this morning I was being tailgated by an E38 (had a slow driver in front of me), and at first I thought it was another E39, until I noticed the size of the grilles. Someone described BMW's styling (the E46, E38, E39) as "same sausage, different lengths" - which is probably what BMW is trying to get away from with the E65. Make each car different enough to be instantly recognizable. >|E46, Z3, Z8, Z9 >|(uugggh!) models can't hold a candle to the classic >|and elegant 2002, E30, E28 and E24. Well.. yes, but the classic styling won't meet current safety standards and they DO look dated. Classic frequently equals 'dated' until there are so few around that they become collectable. Snip.. >I also think that your list of classic and elegant designs should >extend to the E34 and E38. The E24 was pretty, but really reminded me >too much of the "droopy" E23. I wouldn't include the E38 in 'classic' - perhaps elegant, but very little IMHO to really make it an eyecatcher. >I love the looks of my M Coupe, but that was serendipity, not design. >Besides, it's not pretty, elegant, or handsome. It's Gloriously Ugly. >A friend of mine described it as a "rolling middle finger." ;) If you look at it from above - the shape resembles certain parts of the male anatomy :-) I liked the look of my M-Coupe, but can't really say I was ever 'in-love' with it. From lots of angles it has a unique and ballsy look, from other angles I used to think "what were they thinking of..". An M-Coupe is an acquired taste for a lot of us, but I will admit, it's the first car that got as many comments as when I owned a '65 XKE roadster (although I never got an 'ugly' comment on the XKE). Small children and teens seem particularly to love the coupe styling, passed a school-bus stop every day to work in mine where a few kids ALWAYS waved and yelled.. can't say that's happened in the 528i.. :-) >|Has any body seen >|piccies of the new 7 series? Hmmmm, not sure about the >|front end treatment. > >Or the sides, or the rear end treatment. The interior looks nice, and >the mirrors are cool. ;) Gonna have to see it in person before I make a judgement. >Nope, I think I'll hang on to my E34 and E38 until BMW replaces >Bangle, or he decides to design another car, instead of just scaling >the drawings from his last one. Certainly if you're happy with what you have - worth keeping it rolling and not making payments until you find something you HAVE to have to replace it. No brainer. >- -Zandr > (nomex on...try me. ;) No need for nomex.. it's been a civilized discussion so far :-) >Aleksandr Milewski N6MOD >[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.milewski.org/ Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 FOT2.A [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/ Moderator - BMW E39 Enthusiasts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe3 ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #3934 *************************** ________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Camptown Automotive - http://www.camptownauto.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Detailwerks Chicago Inc. "Chicago's Premier Automotive Appearance | Center" . http://www.detailwerkschicago.com |==================================================== | Koala MotorSport . 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