[uucdigest]           Monday, July 30 2001           Volume 03 : Number 4075



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  [uuc] Wroommmmm            ["Ulf Bertilsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
  RE: thinking about Elle... (was Re: [uuc] Re: Lambos)  ["Ulf Bertilsson" <]
  RE: [uuc] staying awake...  ["Ulf Bertilsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Re: [uuc] synth oil query  ["Kim Henshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Re: Re:[uuc] Driving to O'Fest - Best Route for Towing  ["Carey Probst" <h]
  RE: [uuc] Here we go again... 325 AC kaputt  ["Fuerst, Robert C. (Chris)" ]
  RE: [uuc] 86 325 no dash lights or instruments  ["Fuerst, Robert C. (Chris]
  Re: [uuc] Here we go again... (E30 A/C)      [Bob Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:29:33 +0200
From: "Ulf Bertilsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Wroommmmm

http://www.tyranny.net/~jim/video/BMW_M5_LandSpeed.mpg

Dunno if this have been posted yett..

Pretty cool ? :)

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:43:39 +0200
From: "Ulf Bertilsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: thinking about Elle... (was Re: [uuc] Re: Lambos)

Sex and driving don't mix..
Makes a lot of mess..

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nJay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 6:32 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: thinking about Elle... (was Re: [uuc] Re: Lambos)
> 
> 
> Aw jeez, come on man!  I just got out of a 12-step program to 
> stop thinking about
> Elle like that, and then you had to go and post this!  ;-)  
> Well, here we go
> again...
> 
> Don Eilenberger wrote:
> 
> > ... Think of discovering Elle McPherson, naked, waiting and 
> unattainable
> > - the same primal lust applied.
> >
> > KKeily - you ARE a car guy right?? I'm sure you just slipped into
> > that practical mode by accident. I think we have a 12 step program
> > somewhere for that :-)
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:48:51 +0200
From: "Ulf Bertilsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] staying awake...

> how about pulling over at rest spots to take a rest?

Here my tips for staying awake:

- - Drive somewhat fast/agressive.
The G-force's will keep you alert and awake.

- - Make a short stop now and then.
You don't have to actualy sleep,
just lay down 5-30 min until you think you passed out somewhat.

- - Prepare yourself before the ride.
Good confy clothing,
think of the trip before, plan the route in your head.
Be mentaly prepared.

- - Intake
Water water water.. Keeps your head clear.
Sugar is 2 way, it makes you awake, but you get tired faster.

Avoid junk food, makes you tired (and chubby)

- - Timing
Always drive at off hours.
Laying behind a pack of slow drivers can
make you angry and silly takeovers.

Driving at nights reduce the risk of speedtrapping,
but increase the risk for animals in the way.

Use all the road..

- - "Drugs"

Coffein;
Cocke, Coffy etc
Also as seperate pils can be bought.
Keeps you awake...

Sugar/glucose;
Candy and in pure form.
Short fast energy.

Cheers
Ulf
(Drive 14 hours 'nonstop' last week)

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:59:09 +1000
From: "Kim Henshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] synth oil query

I'm afraid then that you've fallen for one of the best marketing snow jobs
in history. The guy who is now my business partner spent 2 years with Mobil
setting up their "synthetic workshop program" here so you could say I've
learnt this from the horses' mouth, rather than the other end where the
marketing stuff comes out........... :-)

Cheers

Kim H

- ----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [uuc] synth oil query


> Kim from Down Under writes:
>
> << Now, on to Mobil 1. Did you know that this oil is NOT made from a true
>  synthetic base stock?? It is actually dino oil in disguise!! Which is one
of
>  the reasons why Mobil was involved in a court case in the not-too-distant
>  past in which it was LEGALLY determined that they are allowed to market a
>  number of their products as "sythetic" - because they have undergone an
>  elaborate transformation. However, the truth is that the base material is
>  still crude oil. From my limited understanding of chemistry I believe
what
>  they do is turn the base stock into a gas then turn it back into a
liquid -
>  ask a chemist how, not me. The point is, a duck is still a duck even
after
>  its been roasted. >>
> Aherm,
>
> Call me Silly Sally, but I beleive that was CASTROL, and they argued that
the
> oil, a mixture of sythetic and dino blood, was a "Synthesis" or some such
> double talk. Maybe Mobil had the same problem, but they way I have always
> heard it -Mobil 1 has been and continues to be 100% synthetic. But I use
> Amsoil so what do I know......
>
> Cheers,
> Jim
>
> Jim Laing
> 84 318i EVO II
> 85 325e
> Dirty E30(s)
> www.DirtyE30.net

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 05:55:09 -0400
From: "Carey Probst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re:[uuc] Driving to O'Fest - Best Route for Towing

The 95-84-290-495-93 route is definitely the way to go.

Since you are traveling on Sunday, shouldn't have to worry about traffic
other than the tourists heading to the beaches, etc.

Unless you are totally masschistic, stay away from 128/95 in the Boston
area.  Basically a mobile parking lot.

The only time I venture inside the 128 beltway is visiting my office on
occasion.

Won't see you till you get there.  From Upstate NY, I go cross country.

Carey Probst,  '99 M3/2,  BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters
Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Verrette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 6:32 PM
Subject: Re:[uuc] Driving to O'Fest - Best Route for Towing


> There is a lot of paving work on I95/128 in Mass between the Mass Pike and
93.  A
> lot of it is done but there are still some stretches of grooved pavement
which
> are different everyday and come up unexpectedly.  I drive this stretch of
95
> every day and the transitions from paved to grooved  are not always
pleasant  If
> you are getting on to the Mass Pike west of I290, take I290 north to I495
north
> to 93. This will save you some change on Mass Pike tolls and put you
further
> north on 93.  I am not sure how 495 is at rush hour, but it can't be any
worse
> than 128.  Getting off the Mass Pike at 290 will help you avoid the mess
at the
> 495 exit on I90.
>
> -Jim
>
> >
> > Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:06:57 EDT
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re:[uuc] Driving to O'Fest - Best Route for Towing
> >
> > In a message dated 7/29/01 2:46:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, it was
written:
> >
> > <<  I'm hoping that somebody can tell
> >  me the best route  >>
> > Take the NJ Pike. Bear in mind, if wind conditions exist they do not
allow
> > you to tow a car or boat. No exceptions. Then you get to discover Rt.
130 and
> > the Old US 1.
> >
> > Take 95 to 287 to 684 (did they rename it)? You want to be on I 84 going
> > across CT. There are some nasty hills for towing, live with it. The
other
> > alternative is taking I95 to 91. That sucks because there is plenty of
night
> > time paving and road repair going on. If humanly possible, you want to
leave
> > the Metro NY area by 3PM. This gets you past Hartford at a decent time
slot.
> > In the Metro Boston area take the old Rt. 128. They've renamed so many
> > sections of it I forget what it is called from the Mass Pike north. This
area
> > is murder from 3PM-7PM. Then take I93 and you're almost there.
> >
> > I just made the trip from Boston-Key West a week ago (1630 miles, 27
hrs20
> > minutes, including a rest stop plus fuel). in a Ryder Truck. This info
is
> > pretty current. And all the tie ups were on the North Bound side.
> > Michel
> >
>
>

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 07:26:41 -0400
From: "Fuerst, Robert C. (Chris)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Here we go again... 325 AC kaputt

Mines the same except I have power at the pressure switch.
I would look to see if you actually have voltage running through
the AC wiring in the slider switches. Or is that what you meant
by "fine"?

My car has voltage at the pressure switch but still does not have power
at the compressor feed wire even if I jump it. Jumping the compressor works.

I would guess that there is a relay but I do not know the location.

I think that the button feeds the slider switch that would then
feed the LP switch, the HP switch, the temperature switch, the cold
inhibitor switch, and then that would then feed a relay before it goes
to the compressor. The temperature dial must play a role in this?

You should see the shop manual for the 733i's system. 60 pages
of "need a NASA engineer to figure this out". %50 of this wheel
gives you a certain % of this air motor flap, etc....

As for the hazard light. You should be able to get a jewelers
screwdriver or large pin in there to push back the lock tab that
allows the connector to come out so you can resolder it.

1st
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 10:17 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      [uuc] Here we go again...
> 
> Gentlemen... and ladies... I hate to do this again, but could the few of
> us
> with E30 and no AC compare notes?
> 
> I got bored/ambitious today and attacked the dash. End result? No AC yet,
> but
> a few things got fixed and I know a lot more about the car.
> 
> First, let me recap... no that would take to long... let me sum up.
> 
> I bought this car with a non-functional AC system. Upon further
> investigation, I determined the following:
> 
> 1) The AC system has some pressure
> 2) When you push the snowflake button and have the bottom two sliders over
>    to the right: the light in the button comes on, the blower in the car
>    comes on, the fan on the engine comes on, but the clutch doesn't
> engage.
> 3) The clutch doesn't engage if you bypass the low pressure cutoff switch.
> 4) The clutch does engage if you send 12v to it directly.
> 5) I couldn't find 12v on any of the wires that go to either of the
> pressure
>    switches on the drier when the compressor should be on.
> 
> Today I dug into the dash and determined:
> 
> 1) The AC/Recirc buttons are fine.
> 2) The switches in the air control sliders are fine.
> 3) The white wire that comes off the AC switch goes to the slider
> switches.
>    (you have no idea how happy it made me to have found both ends of a
> wire)
> 
> Things I would like to know:
> 
> 0) Why doesn't this #$%^$%^ thing work?!
> 1) Does anyone have a schematic of this?
> 2) Where does the violet wire on the AC switch go to?
> 3) Where does the red/green wire from the slider switch go to?
> 4) Where does the evaporator temperature sensor enter into this?
> 5) Is it the same as the freeze protection switches?
> 6) Is there a relay in this mess?
> 
> Now, before I forget. This is an 87 325i. No fancy electronic AC controls
> that I can see, but far, far from the AC schematic in the Haynes book.
> 
> Also, Soes anyone know how the connector for the hazard switch comes
> apart.
> One of the wires in it broke off and needs to be reattached. If I can get
> the contact out I will solder the wire on and put it back. Otherwise, the
> little light inside of it that glows when the dash lights are on will have
> to stay off.
> 
> -- Joe
> 
> --
> Joseph M. Krzeszewski                     Network Operations
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                           Jack of All Trades, Master of
> None... Yet

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 07:55:30 -0400
From: "Fuerst, Robert C. (Chris)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] 86 325 no dash lights or instruments

Are You determining they are direct shorts by checking
resistance to ground?  Have you had a look around the slider
controls?  I imagine this is the only place where you could
get abrasion in the wiring harness? What feeds the cigarette
lighter? perhaps there is a penny or such in there?
Just some ideas. I only have my e28 manual here, one of these
days I'll bring in the others so I have no clue as to what all is fed
by 10 and 23. Odd that it is getting both of them at once. Have
you tried just changing one or the other and not both at the same time?  

1st

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carey Probst [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 7:29 PM
> To:   Fuerst, Robert C. (Chris); [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: [uuc] 86 325 no dash lights or instruments
> 
> RE: [uuc] 86 325 no dash lights or instrumentsYes, fuses 10 and 23.
> 
> Problem is both are direct shorts.  Been searching all day with no luck.
> 
> Any collective wisdom from the list on where to look?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Carey
> 

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Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 06:59:38 -0500
From: Bob Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Here we go again... (E30 A/C)

Joe,

I recently did some work on the A/C in my '88 M3, and had an electrical problem I had
to overcome to get it going (among other things).

On the M3, there is a temperature switch on the thermostat housing (very different
from other E30s, AFAIK). This switch had failed, always open, and the clutch
engagement depends on this switch closing.

You might look for this. I would assume that, even though the location of components
might be different, that  the electrical designs of the A/C on the cars are similar.

Good luck and let us know what you find!

Bob

>
> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:16:52 -0400 (EDT)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [uuc] Here we go again...
>
> Gentlemen... and ladies... I hate to do this again, but could the few of us
> with E30 and no AC compare notes?

- --
Robert Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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