[uucdigest]         Tuesday, January 14 2003         Volume 03 : Number 6017



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       Re: [uuc] Insurance, again
       Re: [uuc] Insurance, again
       Re: [uuc] Electrical Cut off switch
       [uuc] Re: v1 mount
       Re: [uuc] radar detector mounting brackets
       Re: [uuc] Electrical Cut off switch
       Re: [uuc] Electrical Cut off switch
       Re: [uuc] Insurance, again
       Re: [uuc] Electrical Cut off switch
       [uuc] Radar Detectors
       [uuc] PPI in San Luis Obispo?
       [uuc] PPI in San Luis Obispo?
       Re: [uuc] radar detector recommendations
       [uuc] Floor jack
       [uuc] Re: Best aluminum Trailer

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:20:53 -0500
From: "Jeremy Lucas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Insurance, again

That is the same exact wording that Liberty Mutual has (and I'm
currently considering switching to) and they say driver ed events are
covered.   I'm have the agent double check with HQ before I sign on the
dotted line.

Jeremy
95 M3
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "carl sewell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Any vehicle located inside a facility designed for racing for the
purpose
> of:
> a. Competing in; or
> b. Practicing or preparing for;
> Any prearranged or organized racing or speed contest.
>
>

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:26:45 -0500
From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Insurance, again

At 2:29 PM -0500 1/13/03, carl sewell wrote:
>All the recent comments re insurance prompted me to request a specimen
>policy from my carrier, Travelers, since the annual billing/statement does
>not include the �fine print.�
>
>Travelers (in Virginia) says they will provide neither liability, collision,
>nor comprehensive coverage for:
>       Any vehicle located inside a facility designed for racing for 
>the purpose
>of:
>a.     Competing in; or
>b.     Practicing or preparing for;
>Any prearranged or organized racing or speed contest.

Taken literally you could not even park your car in the parking lot 
of a race track as a spectator.

I'm going with supplemental insurance next year.
The deductible is outrageous, but the alternative is I will loose my 
insurance altogether since I had a damage claim from 4 years ago and 
a total loss 3 years ago. My insurance company and I aren't on the 
best of terms. Well maybe we are  since I'm payable double rates now. 
I want the supplemental insurance to insulate me from my primary. If 
my car suffers any damage, it would be out of pocket any way. If the 
$hit hit@ the fan, I'll take the loss in the deductible. That is the 
price I pay to play. The alternative will be I'll stay at home and 
wax my car. Nah!

...steven

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:30:47 -0800
From: "Bora Akyol (BMW)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Electrical Cut off switch

On 1/13/03 2:51 PM, "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In my never ending quest to constantly modify the race car I'd like to
> install an electrical cutoff switch.  Anyone been there done that in an E36
> M3?  It would be perfect if I could just use the same 4 wires leading to the
> "jump start" block in the engine compartment passenger side, but that would
> be way too easy.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Marco
> 

You have to cut off the wires from the alternator as well as the wires from
the battery.

Bora

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:26:33 -0600
From: "Scott Staewen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: v1 mount

I find it surprising that there aren't already such mounts on the market. 
I'd pay $50-100 for the right device.

Scott Staewen



>I have some ideas for an excellent mounting scheme to address these 
>problems. The bad news is that
>it would cost much more than the cheepo suction cups and plastic brackets 
>you can buy. In fact, it
>would probably sell for $50-100.
>
>Please let me know what you think.
>
>Thank you
>
>John Pease (not quite ready to quit my day job)
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:52:16 -0500
From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] radar detector mounting brackets

At 4:44 PM -0800 1/13/03, John Pease wrote:
>With all of this talk about radar detectors, I wanted to find out 
>what everyone thought about the
>mounting brackets you use.

My V1 is mounted near the sunroof switch. I ran the wires along the 
headliner, down the A pillar to the center console. I connected the 
power to a supply that is on only when the engine is on. The remote 
display is in the ashtray. This way I can close the ashtray to 
conceal the display. From the outside you can not see the detector, 
helpful in Virginia and Washington, DC. I have picked up laser so the 
location is not a problem. One of these days I'll mount a cutoff 
switch so I can turn it off without Mr Revenuer seeing me.

http://www.unofficialbmw.com/e36/electrical/e36_hardwiring_a_valentine_1.html

Instead of mounting it as Ron did, I used the visor clip. I cut a 
small groove in the overhead panel and used the visor clip. Works 
just fine. The angle doesn't seem to be a problem.

...steven

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:48:56 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Electrical Cut off switch

Why not just cut the feed wires from the main relay to the injectors?
Perhaps also cut the power to the ignition coil for the belt and suspenders
approach.
Gary Derian

> On 1/13/03 2:51 PM, "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In my never ending quest to constantly modify the race car I'd like to
> > install an electrical cutoff switch.  Anyone been there done that in an
E36
> > M3?  It would be perfect if I could just use the same 4 wires leading to
the
> > "jump start" block in the engine compartment passenger side, but that
would
> > be way too easy.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Marco
> >
>
> You have to cut off the wires from the alternator as well as the wires
from
> the battery.
>
> Bora
>
>

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:07:04 -0800
From: marco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Electrical Cut off switch

That I know.  I was wondering if two of the four wires in the jump start 
  block were the alternator circuit.  There is a big guage wire from the 
battery and a small guage wire coming thru the firewall.  Then another 
large guage and a small gauge that joins up to the loom that joins the 
diagnostic port loom.  If those small wires are actually the alternator 
ciruit I'm golden.  Otherwise I'll be running wire around the engine 
compartment.

Marco

Bora Akyol (BMW) wrote:
> On 1/13/03 2:51 PM, "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>In my never ending quest to constantly modify the race car I'd like to
>>install an electrical cutoff switch.  Anyone been there done that in an E36
>>M3?  It would be perfect if I could just use the same 4 wires leading to the
>>"jump start" block in the engine compartment passenger side, but that would
>>be way too easy.
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>Marco
>>
> 
> 
> You have to cut off the wires from the alternator as well as the wires from
> the battery.
> 
> Bora
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:29:40 -0500
From: Miguel Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Insurance, again

Jeremy Lucas wrote:

>That is the same exact wording that Liberty Mutual has (and I'm
>currently considering switching to) and they say driver ed events are
>covered.   I'm have the agent double check with HQ before I sign on the
>dotted line.
>  
>
Got a feeling your agent will come back and tell you its not covered.

I just renewed (and canceled too for other reasons) my policy with 
Liberty Mutual. I reread the policy and not only does it state what 
everyone else has said but it also includes something like "Any 
prearranged, organized or SPONTANEOUS racing or speed contest." I don't 
have the policy right in front of me but thats basically it...

- -- 
///Miguel Salvador
AIM: M3DRVER
http://www.miguelsalvador.com

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:41:36 -0800
From: marco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Electrical Cut off switch

Cuz the rules say battery and alternator.  Can't argue with the rules. 
Granted for my class you don't need a cut off but I'm a bit of a safety 
nazi.

Marco

Gary Derian wrote:
> Why not just cut the feed wires from the main relay to the injectors?
> Perhaps also cut the power to the ignition coil for the belt and suspenders
> approach.
> Gary Derian
> 
> 
>>On 1/13/03 2:51 PM, "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In my never ending quest to constantly modify the race car I'd like to
>>>install an electrical cutoff switch.  Anyone been there done that in an
>>
> E36
> 
>>>M3?  It would be perfect if I could just use the same 4 wires leading to
>>
> the
> 
>>>"jump start" block in the engine compartment passenger side, but that
>>
> would
> 
>>>be way too easy.
>>>
>>>thanks
>>>
>>>Marco
>>>
>>
>>You have to cut off the wires from the alternator as well as the wires
> 
> from
> 
>>the battery.
>>
>>Bora
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 15:18:59 -0800
From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Radar Detectors

Someone posted that he wanted to buy a radar detector for a drive across the
country, but didn't want to spend the big bucks for a V1

Then Sean Cordone wrote (after everyone told him to buy a V1):

>The original question was predicated on "I don't want to spend
>the $$$  for the V1, so..."; the zealots answered "buy the V1".
>Only one answer -  it does sound like a religion. ;)

If you ever drive across Nevada on Hwy 50 in an M5 with a newer Escort and a
V1 you will become a zealot, nothing else is even in the same league of the
V1.  I've seen the newest V1s sell on eBay for "more" than $400!  What the
guy needs to do is call to order a V1 and ask for a "refurbished" model at
$50 off.  I've bought two this way and so have many friends.  Every
"refurbished"  model I have seen looked perfect.  If he ever needs money he
can put it on eBay and probably sell it for more than he paid for it.

Kevin Kelly
BMW CCA 50039

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:49:56 -0800
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] PPI in San Luis Obispo?

Can anyone recommend a shop for a PPI on an E30 325is in San Luis Obispo?  A
friend is considering a car down there.

Much appreciated.

- - Mark 
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 20:52:00 -0800
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] PPI in San Luis Obispo?

Can anyone recommend a good shop for a PPI on an E30 325is in San Luis
Obispo?

A friend is considering a car down there.

Thanks!

- - Mark
- --
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:58:43 -0700
From: allegro1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] radar detector recommendations

  Brett Anderson Wrote
> Often wondered if a laser guided missile could react fast enough to follow the
> beam back to the asshole's eye ball.

This just happens to be my bailywick. In fact guided rockets/missiles in 
the army's inventory, as well as some under developement, could do just 
that as many will accelerate from 0 to about Mach 2.0 in one second. 
Launch delays are a very small fraction of that time.

Peter du Bois
'87 325iS - Soon to have 19 tube rocket launcher on it

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:29:56 -0600
From: "Burtsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Floor jack

With the draught in Kansas City this winter I have been able to delay
putting on my snow tires until now.  However, it would have been an easier
switch with a floor jack.

Can anyone suggest a decent, low profile, hydraulic floor jack that can get
under my '98 M3?  I'd like to spend under $200 if that's possible.

I tried something last time that made the change easier this time.  I put a
little anti-seize where the wheel contacts the hub so the old wheel came off
without the usual struggle.

Burt
'98 M3

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:37:51 -0800 (PST)
From: "Curtis A. Ingraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Best aluminum Trailer

bs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As a Featherlite owner, perhaps I'm biased, but my experience tells 
> me if 400#  is going to make your decision, you need more tow vehicle

An excellent point.  If you maintain a 500-1000 pound margin, you'll 
be a lot better off.  

> I towed my M3 on a Featherlite with an Explorer V8, which had a tow 
> rating of 6700 if I remember correctly, and it never felt comfortable.  
> Just not enough truck. My Expedition (5.4, 3.73 axle) not only tows 
> with much more stability, but goes better, stops better, and sips gas 
> more frugally than the Explorer did.  I'm getting 15 mpg towing, while 
> the Explorer got 11.

A longer wheelbase, as with the Expedition vs. the Explorer, improves
stability and ride comfort.

Curt Ingraham
72 2002tii
95 Suburban K2500 (10,000-lb tow rating) - FS 
Oakland, CA

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