[uucdigest] Friday, February 28 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6160
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RE: [uuc] Damned OBDII RE: [uuc] OT: Overseas Advice: Finland Re: [uuc] Damned OBDII Re: [uuc] Damned OBDII [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta RE: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:06:15 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: Damned OBDII Lee, there was an article about this in our local paper last Friday. Until I read it, I had no idea just how much a PITA OBD-II really was. Now that I want to share the article with you, the damn newspaper's web site wants me to pay for the article. Well excuse me, but to be honest with you, Lee, you're not important enough for me to pay for the article. Especially when I saved it at home, which, unfortunately, isn't going to answer your question right this minute. But basically, OBD-II is looking for you to fill in its memory with certain kinds of driving. Accelerate from a certain speed to another certain speed. Hold a certain speed for a certain number of minutes. Run the engine cold with the A/C on. Etc, etc. Of course, when you reset the codes, you empty the memory and have to start over. So you'll have to find out what all the hoops are first, and then you and your GF can jump through all the hoops, fill in the memory, and go back for the smog test. Contact me at home if you want more info from the article. Maybe I can fax it or scan it for you. HTH, Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:09:31 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Damned OBDII Everyone, Subject: G.F.'s 98 323is--problem: emissions test I seem to be having trouble getting this damn thing to pass an emissions test. The car has a CE light that goes on from time to time (which I hear they all do....). So, we had this light reset last Thursday where we bought the car. This is the second time this light has been reset since we bought it in Dec. Still no one is apparently able to tell me why this comes on..... Anyway, on Friday, we take the car for an emissions test. Nope, sorry, the GA state OBDII reader tells the tester that the light has just been reset & there is no data there. The tester tells said G.F. that there is no problem, the car just has to be driven around a bit to aquire data for the test. Yesterday, she goes back....still no data for a couple of points (maybe it was incomplete data). Another fail...... My question is, how the F!#$%^$$#ing hell long do you have to drive this thing until it will pass an emissions test. We've had this car since 12/2 and it still doesn't have a tag on it!!!! Or is there something else wrong I should be looking for? We've really had this car too long for not having a tag..... Thanks Lee->building a stronger case for driving E30's every day...... 88 M3->no CE light 01 Saab 9-3 SE->32k & never seen the CE light after start-up ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:19:37 -0500 From: "Zionsville Autosport" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Electrical/Charging System > I have an E30 (87' 325) that yesterday decided it did not want to charge > the battery. Everything was fine on Wednesday, but on Thursday I first > noticed that the heater fan was not working. I then noticed that the tach, > temp and fuel gauges were not working and the battery charging light is > on. In addition, when you first start the car, the fan and gauges work for > a split second and then cease to operate. I checked the battery and found > it to have 10 volts and it was not charging. Though I have an electrical > diagram, I have no clue as to the problem. It almost seems like it is a > capacitor/relay, because it does work for a split second. > > On reading other posts, I know there is a wealth of knowledge on the board. > Hopefully, the board can help provide some hints as to what to check. bob there could be several things wrong with your car. start the car (jump it if you have to) and check the voltage output at the battery. it should be about 13.5-14.5 volts if the alternator is charging correctly. if it's not, then you have a worn voltage regulator (inside the alternator) or that alternator itself is bad. if the charging voltage is correct, then your battery is toast and not taking the charge. hope that helps. PS - it's not a good idea to run your car on lower than the normal voltage output as electrical items can be easily damaged. jason - ----------------------------------- Zionsville Autosport "BMW Parts Specialists" http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:25:28 -0800 From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] re: Pontiac and BMW 5 bolt patterns re: Pontiac and BMW 5 bolt patterns: They are the same. Though offset may be drastically different depending on the model. I also used to use a set of 4 bolt Dodge Omni GLH and Daytona wheels as a great dirt cheap 15x6 conversion for a 2002 or E30. 'jk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:29:05 -0500 From: "Doug Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] 1995 BMW 540i 6-speed pre-purchase info? Howard says >> Runs good, not sure if the engine has been changed or not. >> Brakes and handles well, no play anywhere and no noise jinking the car >> back and forth at 35 in a 25 MPH sweeping corner from the suspension. Try hitting some small bumps and potholes... Mine was fine going straight, but had weird bump steer until I got everything tight. Howard says >> The OBC says that avg. mpg is 17.5, is that normal for a 540iA? I used to get about 17 when I was doing mostly short city driving. Now that I'm all highway, I get 21, and that's at about 85 mph, with Sport Mode used for merging and other fun activities. Doug 94 540iA - 106k miles, stock (no chip) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:41:13 -0800 From: "Brant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Damned OBDII Lee - OBDII requires drive cycles to be completed before it will log a full data set. It is not just a matter of time, it is a matter of driving a specific way. I don't know whether the drive cycles are generic or manufacturer-specific. Go to your dealer, tell him that you need to complete drive cycles for a smog test, and ask him to tell you how your BMW's drive cycles are defined. Brant Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:09:31 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Damned OBDII . . . .Anyway, on Friday, we take the car for an emissions test. Nope, sorry, the GA state OBDII reader tells the tester that the light has just been reset & there is no data there. The tester tells said G.F. that there is no problem, the car just has to be driven around a bit to aquire data for the test. Yesterday, she goes back....still no data for a couple of points (maybe it was incomplete data). Another fail...... My question is, how the F!#$%^$$#ing hell long do you have to drive this thing until it will pass an emissions test. Thanks Lee->building a stronger case for driving E30's every day......>>>>>> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:41:13 -0800 From: "Brant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] OT: Overseas Advice: Finland Robert - Work on your tan. After class, you all go get naked in the sauna. Brant <<<<<<From: Robert Phelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] OT: Overseas Advice: Finland Heya gang, I've just been granted an internship with the Helsinki University of Technology for this summer. I've done plenty of travelling previously, but never to a Scandinavian country. I was wondering if anyone on this list has travelled there or lives near there that could give me some advice on the country. I'm already familiar with the weather patterns and the lack of a real "night" in the summer-time, but I am completely unfamiliar with the cultural expectations and cues. Is there a BMW club there maybe? Too bad I wont have a car :) Thanks for the bandwidth guys. Robert>>>>>> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:51:24 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Damned OBDII Brant at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OBDII requires drive cycles to be completed before it will log a full > data set. It is not just a matter of time, it is a matter of driving a > specific way. I don't know whether the drive cycles are generic or > manufacturer-specific. Go to your dealer, tell him that you need to > complete drive cycles for a smog test, and ask him to tell you how your > BMW's drive cycles are defined. And then go find someone who actually knows. - - Mark - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:00:17 -0600 From: "Bavarian Machine Specialties -- R.T. Buttweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Damned OBDII At 12:51 PM 2/28/2003, you wrote: >And then go find someone who actually knows. All engines 1996-02: * Drive cycle will be interrupted if a) engine speed exceeds 3000rpm b) road speed exceeds 60mph or c) large fluctuations in accelerator pedal position occur. 1. from cold start, start the engine and idle for approx 3 minutes 2. drive vehicle for approx 4 minutes at 20-30 mph 3. drive at 40-60mph (do not exceed 60mph) for approx 15 min. 4. stop vehicle and idle for approx 5 min. If necessary (unlikely) repeat 1-4. >- Mark >-- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:08:13 -0800 (PST) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta Dorffer wrote: >> 91 M3 >> 88 iS >Well right there is your problem, two E30s, never going to be a speed >demon that way... That's why S50/S52 engine swaps exist. :-) Some people need torque and high speed, I don't but luckily Ben lets me borrow his cars if I need a fix. ;-) Carlos 91 M3 88 iS __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:30:57 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta OK, yes if modified. For instance I have air helpers on my Avalanche. I have been asked by a cop what my tow rating and what my rig weighed once at a rest stop. Take it for what it's worth. Marco - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mike Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta No, not saying that at all. But for towing a 7000lb trailer/car combo, any V8 pickup truck with the right rear springs and trailer brakes will do fine Also, I am not a lawyer, but I have seen many vehicles modified with leaf springs, trans coolers and trailer brakes, so their effective towing capacity has been increased by a large margin. As to the enforcement of towing weights, that is a new one on me and CANNOT imagine ever being stopped for that. Especially when you can easily prove the vehicle has been modified to handle larger loads Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: "marco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > And used by the highway patrol to give pricey tickets. > > So you're saying that a vehicle rated to tow 5000lbs is just as safe and > engineered to the same level as one rated at 20,0000? > > Go for it. > > Marco > > mike wrote: > > That woudl not stop me from using it for towing, tow ratings are for > > lawyers. > > > > Have towed 9400lbs with a long bed F150 with the 4.6L auto, no problems at > > all. > > > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:26 PM > > Subject: RE: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > > > > > > > >>The "Harley" tows 500 lbs less than the Lightening. > >>Marco > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of mike > >>Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:39 PM > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > >> > >> > >>Actually, > >> > >>The Harly Davidson version which comes in a crew cab, has the same motor, > >>with a larger supercharger pulley I believe for lower boost. > >> > >>I have thought about keeping my eyes open for a decent used one in a few > >>years, then sell all of the stupid harley shit to some other idiot for > > > > their > > > >>F150, putting a smaller pulley on it and there you go, a 4 dr lightning. > >> > >>Mike > >> > >>Not a fan of trucks, but have had many many F150 for company trucks, they > >>are damn near bullit proof and have also been mightly impressed with the > >>Lightning, nothign like 450lbs of torque and it does handle!!! > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:23 PM > >>Subject: RE: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > >> > >> > >> > >>>I thought about getting one of those as my tow vehicle but it was only > >> > >>rated > >> > >>>at 5000lbs towing and couldn't get a crew cab nixed that idea. Bummer, > >>>could have been fun. > >>> > >>>Marco > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Daley > >>>Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:02 AM > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > >>> > >>> > >>>Brett, > >>> > >>>Most of those who posted on that thread own Lightnings. The particular > >>>gentleman you quote owns a 2002 Lightning which off the showroom floor > >> > >>pulls > >> > >>>.85 g on the skidpad. That doesn't look so bad next to an '02 M3 which > >> > >>pulls > >> > >>>about .90. Throw in the facts that the Lightning also makes 380 hp and > >> > >>450 > >> > >>>ft-lb stock and that truck is capable of embarrassing a lot of cars on a > >>>road course. Considering it stickers for about $14K less than the M3 > >> > > and > > > >>>can carry a full sheet of plywoood, yeah, there _is_ a performance > >> > >>vehicle. > >> > >>>Brian Daley > >>> > >>>-------Original Message------- > >>>From: KMS - Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Sent: 02/27/03 03:35 PM > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Subject: Re: [uuc] Consider this before you go to Road Atlanta > >>> > >>> > >>>>Gotta love the comments from the, umm, people, on that board! > >>> > >>>"He should let one of us drive it for them, huh?" > >>> > >>>>From a pick up truck forum.......Yeah, there's a performance vehicle! > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6160 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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