[uucdigest] Wednesday, March 5 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6181
_________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.bmwdatabase.com | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] RE: Contemplating new tires: Pirelli, Yokohama or Kumho... Re: [uuc] BMWs Getting Too Complicated (was <E34> Problem with a/c) Subject: Re: [uuc] re: inexpensive helmets [uuc] WANTED: E39 M5 MIRRORS Re: [uuc] Turning off Brake-Assist Re: [uuc] <E28> will 17" wheels from an 89 5 series fit? Re: Subject: Re: [uuc] re: inexpensive helmets Re: [uuc] WAS inexpensive helmets, NOW roll bars and harnesses Re: [uuc] Re: Lightnings and other fast Fords RE: [uuc] WAS inexpensive helmets, NOW roll bars and harne [uuc] Re: good neck collars [uuc] Re: Quaife in FWD applications Re: [uuc] WAS inexpensive helmets, NOW roll bars and harnesses ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 20:57:08 -0500 From: "RAGS 535" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: Contemplating new tires: Pirelli, Yokohama or Kumho... Jay; Both are good inexpensive tires,but don't do well with MXX3s...not much does.If you can't do 4 tires,the Sumitomos should be closer to the Michelins in characteristics than the Kumhos,which I like and use. >From: Jay Guillermo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: Contemplating new tires: Pirelli, Yokohama or >Kumho... >Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 09:54:51 -0800 (PST) > >I, on the other hand, is looking into replacing the two >front tires on my '93 325i. Actually only one of them is >badly due to failing tie rod. Had replaced the rods on >both side, now have to replace both shoes. I currently >have Michelin MXX3 but I would like a change to a less >pricey pair of shoes. > >Would any of the following be good for the fronts (I would >also replace the rears as soon as economy gets better); > >Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 >Sumitomo HTR Z II > >If you would advice a different tire, I would welcome that >too. > > >Thanks, >Jay > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more >http://taxes.yahoo.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:02:57 -0500 From: Dave Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] BMWs Getting Too Complicated (was <E34> Problem with a/c) Gary wrote: >Climate control? When I was your age I just stuffed >ice cubes in my shorts, and we liked it that way. Ice cubes? You had Ice Cubes?? LUXURY!! Dave Meyer Stafford VA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:05:55 -0500 From: "Christian Bernhardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Subject: Re: [uuc] re: inexpensive helmets An additional comment for consideration. An important variable with Snell rated helmets is their weight. This affects two important factors: 1) comfort during long runs (and resulting fatigue), and 2) neck strain/injury during a crash (it acts as a tethered bowling ball). So compare the weight and go with the lightest helmet you can afford. Also, look seriously into a neck collar or some other restraint device (e.g. HANS) to reduce potential neck injury (which can be very serious in some instances). One way to think about this is as "head & neck safety system." Chris 95 325is ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:07:27 -0800 From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] WANTED: E39 M5 MIRRORS Any color or condition. OEM mirrors are my preference, but if you have aftermarket e39 M5 mirrors that looks OEM, I'll consider them. Chris 89 M3 http://www.inlacal.com/m3/m3.htm 01 X5 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 18:12:18 -0800 From: Bora Akyol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Turning off Brake-Assist BMW being a sportier company than Mercedes must have tuned it less aggressively, on the MB the damn thing just comes on any time I get on the pedal hard. I think on the track it may be less of a problem since brake application is smoother, but on the street when some **hole cuts me off, and I brake hard the brake assist cuts in and makes me stop in unbelievably short distances (this is all good) but then I almost always end up getting real close to rear ended since people follow so close. On 3/5/03 11:32 AM, "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you defeat the DSC is this turned off? I haven't noticed anything > "weird" on the SO's 540 but I always turn off the DSC. > > Marco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of KMS - Brett > Anderson > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:55 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [uuc] Turning off Brake-Assist > > > BMW has it also. It's called Active Braking Control or somesuch. > > It has a pressure sensor on the master cylinder, and a travel sensor on the > pedal. It watches how much brake pressure you're applying, and how fast you > applied it. > > If it feels you are in a panic situation, i.e high pressure, fast > activation, > it will disconnect the driver from the brakes and bring the car to a stop as > fast as the electronics can do so. > > If pressure is releived from the pedal, it assumes the situation has changed > and will give control back to the driver. > > Most 01 and later models with DSC have this feature. > > ----------------------------------------------------- > BMW Special Tool Rentals > Pay per incident tech support > ----------------------------------------------------- > Brett Anderson > KMS > (440) 338 1650 > www.koalamotorsport.com > > OSS committee member > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Coffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> I think some are confused. This is not ABS doing this. Mercedes has a > new >> feature which pressurizes the brakes (opposite of ABS) if it senses a hard >> stop. Kinda of like power steering. I was wondering how this would apply >> in the real world. >> >> Here is more info >> http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/at_010501.htm > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:17:42 -0800 (PST) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E28> will 17" wheels from an 89 5 series fit? E34 wheels fit. (89-95) E39 (97 and later) have a larger hub diameter and require hub-centering rings. You want an offset around et20. In the rear, 225 or wider tires may rub the fender lip, especially if the car is lowered. In the front, tires that are too wide or wheels with too much offset will create clearnance problems with the spring perch on the inside. tammer f. '87 535iS, new Yok AVS ES100 waiting for snow to clear .... - --- Ron J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Doing some wheel shopping for the car, and I was > wondering if the 17" > factory wheels off an 89 or newer 5 series will fit my > car (85 535i) the > bolt pattern should be the same as well as the centric > hub, as far as I > know. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 18:19:57 -0800 From: Bora Akyol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Subject: Re: [uuc] re: inexpensive helmets Speaking of neck collars, I really like the Sparco FIA approved neck collar. Much better than the G-force stuff (yuck) On 3/5/03 6:05 PM, "Christian Bernhardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An additional comment for consideration. > > An important variable with Snell rated helmets is their weight. This > affects two important factors: 1) comfort during long runs (and > resulting fatigue), and 2) neck strain/injury during a crash (it acts as > a tethered bowling ball). So compare the weight and go with the > lightest helmet you can afford. Also, look seriously into a neck collar > or some other restraint device (e.g. HANS) to reduce potential neck > injury (which can be very serious in some instances). > > One way to think about this is as "head & neck safety system." > > Chris > 95 325is > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 18:44:56 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] WAS inexpensive helmets, NOW roll bars and harnesses Dennis Liu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I based my own conclusion on the following observations. Nearly every > single collision I've witnessed at the track, or that my friends have > witnessed, in the DE environment, has involved hitting something (wall, > armco, guardrail, mound, car), sometimes with multiple impacts, but never > with a roll over. Do rollovers happen? Of course they do, even at the > track. Do rollovers happen that cause a roof to collapse completely? Yes, > of course. But not NEARLY as often as impacts without rollovers. I just saw a rollover at Thunderhill last Wednesday. The driver literally walked away from it because her Spec Miata's roll cage includes a main hoop, which is what a roll bar really is. Without the rollover protection, she'd have been screwed. The last E36 I saw roll over at the track had this fascinating new post-rollover feature where the roof on the passenger side of the car was touching the roll bar. Thanks, but I'll take belts and a bar or stock belts and no bar. You can do what you want. - - Mark - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 22:18:47 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Lightnings and other fast Fords Ben White wrote: > I either missed something that came earlier or don't under your > abbreviation "RR". Are you talking about Rolls Royce? If so, why would BMW > AG want to buy Jaguar engines from Ford? RR = Range Rover. LR = Land Rover. BMW Sold LR & RR to Ford ~3 years ago when they also sold off the remains of the Austin (not Aston) Rover/ British Leyland empire. so Ford owns Jag & LR/RR & might end up using engines from Jag in future LR/RR products. Roll Royce used to be one big company which included Bentley, Rolls cars and also Roll Royce airplane turbine engines. then the automotive & aero parts were split. BMW bought (or took a controlling interest) in the aero business (Rolls Royce built the Vanos units for the euro 3.0l M3 engine). Rolls Royce & Bentley cars ran modified versions of the BMW 4.x liter V8 for a while, but were not that popular with their customers. then, a a few years ago (3-4, I forget) VW & BMW got into a bidding war/ standoff over who was going to to buy the Bentley & Rolls Royce car making operations. VW won the prize, but BMW pulled a fast one & got the rights to the Rolls _name_ but not the cars, so they spent several years (3 IIRC) putting together the new giant Rolls Royce that they introduced at the Detroit auto show this past January. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:18:21 -0800 From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] WAS inexpensive helmets, NOW roll bars and harne Dennis, Your argument is specious because your units are arbitrary. The real cost of not having a full complement of safety equipment appropriate for the conditions and circustances in the ultimate cost in the event of that "low probability" event. - -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 22:28:11 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: good neck collars Bora Akyol wrote: > Speaking of neck collars, I really like the Sparco FIA approved neck collar. > Much better than the G-force stuff (yuck) damn straight. the Sparco collar is _very_ nice. http://www.sparcousa.com/prace_underacc.asp?id=385 Jack Money at EMS ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) can get these for a pretty good price as well I believe. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 22:33:58 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Quaife in FWD applications KKiely wrote: > John says: > "There's now a Quaife listing for the (deutscher) Mini Cooper, which makes > it a tempting prospect. I'll never own FWD again without a limited-slip." > > I'm curious, what does a limited slip (gear type or plate type) do for torque > steer? First thoughts are that it would make it worse? > But then John implies FWD is better with. I dunno about Quaife's specifically, but LSD in general is always a desired thing in the hot hatch reviews. the reviews of the Focus RS (with Quaife) have noted that you can feel the diff working under some conditions, which makes the car more tricky to drive if you're not prepared for it. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:39:59 -0800 (PST) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] WAS inexpensive helmets, NOW roll bars and harnesses Dennis Liu wrote: >Thus, again, just in my opinion, and for ME, it's actually SAFER for >me to use a harness even without a roll bar. >Am I completely insane? No. You'll find (or that's what I've observed) that most people pretty much reach a compromise. That is a 4pt belt (like a Schroth) where you get the benefits of a harness but also has that ASM system. Perhaps Mark's point is that 3" 5-pt or 6-pt belts are not the safest thing in a car w/o a rollbar or a cage where a 4pt belt would perhaps be a better choice. After driving and riding in cars with proper cages, seats, and harnesses I think it's crazy to be driving at 10/10ths w/o the proper safety equipment. I like to putz around at 8/10ths anyway. :-) Carlos 91 M3 <--luckily for me, neither of these two cars go very fast 88 iS <-- :-) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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