[uucdigest] Thursday, March 6 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6189
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] E28 Rear brake lights RE: [uuc] E28 Rear brake lights RE: [uuc] BMWs Getting Too Complicated (was <E34> Problem with a/c) [uuc] Re: Portable air tanks [uuc] Portable Air Tanks [uuc] portable air tanks [uuc] Portable air tanks Re: [uuc] Portable Air Tanks [uuc] <E34/E39> Front Seat interchangeability [uuc] RE: Roll cages and Harnesses [uuc] FWD LSD (was Lightnings, etc.) [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #6187 Re: [uuc] Portable air tanks RE: [uuc] RE: Roll cages and Harnesses ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:38:32 -0500 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E28 Rear brake lights I use it as a second set of brake lights, although it can be wired (as per the Euro cars) for one of them to be (or both) as extra tail lights when fogs are chosen. Ed Walker, Scott wrote: >Has anyone modified the brake light housing to use the inner most light bulb >socket that is not used from the factor. >This would double the brake lights to 4. I seem to remember a digest about >this some time ago. Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated. > >Scott >86 528 (E28) >350k+ (Speedo have broken) > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:42:35 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] E28 Rear brake lights Scott asked: >Has anyone modified the brake light housing to use the inner most light bulb >socket that is not used from the factor. Factory? Yes - I did this on BOHICA many moons ago.. and later disconnected it. >This would double the brake lights to 4. I seem to remember a digest about >this some time ago. Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated. I used some wire jumpers soldered to the existing brake light buss bar to the extra socket contacts. I then used standard BMW sockets in those spots. It did add additional brake light - which on an E28 is a good thing generally since they are rather dim (especially as the reflectors age). Reason I disconnected it - the brake light failure module didn't seem to like it. Got intermittent failure messages, and didn't get failure messages when one bulb burned out (the module uses coils/reed-relays to determine if there is current being drawn). This might be a good spot to use an LED brake light bulb, since it draws very little current it shouldn't upset the monitoring system.. >Scott >86 528 (E28) >350k+ (Speedo have broken) HTH, Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 FOT2.A [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/ Moderator - BMW E39 Enthusiasts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe39 "One should do the stuff that makes you smile" - Ulf Bertilsson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:47:41 -0800 From: "Brant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] BMWs Getting Too Complicated (was <E34> Problem with a/c) Alex - My '95 is so darned smart, with its computer-controlled A/C, that when I put the ventilator on recirculation, A/C off, it automatically turns on the A/C. Wowee, some German engineer knows about long-term humidity build-up and has taken steps to counter it. Unfortunately, my accustomed use of recirc was to momentarily prevent ingesting foul air when transiting tunnels. It was just easier to select recirc than to close everything else down. What that helpful engineer has done by starting the A/C is to cause condensation on the A/C evaporator coils while I transit the tunnel. When I go back to vent upon exiting the tunnel, the A/C shuts off and I get a blast of high humidity air. On creature comfort matters, too much automation is a bad thing. Brant ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 13:22:55 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Portable air tanks on 3/6/03 12:33 PM, Barbara Zmiewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone had experience with a portable air tank? We have been > considering a 5 gallon air storage tank to use at the track for topping off > the tires. The question I can't seem to get an answer for is how this > quantity of air translates into how many pounds in how many tires. I > realize there are many variables at work here. As for our specifics, we are > running 225x50x15 Kuhmos and usually have to add about 3-5 lbs per tire > after they cool down overnight. Will a 5 gal. air tank hold enough air? I hate taking a big tank full of "nothing" to the track, so have an alternative solution. I use a small air compressor made by Campbell Hausfeld. It has an internal rechargeable lead-acid battery and will top off tires a whole bunch of times on one charge. Also includes a handy light and a 12V power outlet (charge your cell phone). See: http://shop.store.yahoo.com/dynadirect/sp-cc2500.html Neil 96 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:50:46 -0500 From: Norman Lieberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Portable Air Tanks A 5 gal. tank should be enough for topping off tires. Make sure it's filled to nearly the max for your pop off valve. Norman Lieberman '97 528/5 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:34:46 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] portable air tanks - --0-290565378-1046975686=:26565 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A five gallon tank would be okay, but as with most things in life, bigger is better. The most popular are made by Midwest Products so if you can find their products, shop for price and get the best deal. One thing to consider is the quality of the valve. It's frustrating to fill the sucker (actually blower) up and find it's leaked out overnight. These tanks have very good valves and will hold air for weeks. - --0-290565378-1046975686=:26565 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii A five gallon tank would be okay, but as with most things in life, bigger is better. The most popular are made by Midwest Products so if you can find their products, shop for price and get the best deal. One thing to consider is the quality of the valve. It's frustrating to fill the sucker (actually blower) up and find it's leaked out overnight. These tanks have very good valves and will hold air for weeks. - --0-290565378-1046975686=:26565-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:51:33 -0500 From: "Steele, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Portable air tanks The tank will work, but look for the larger size. Mine, is 11 gallon, giving much more capacity. I can easily top off 4 tires to race pressure, but there is enough for a flat tire or 2. The 5 gallon may be too small. Also get a kit of attachments, for car tires, basketballs, etc. No affiliation; just checking the web. http://tools.aubuchonhardware.com/power_tools/air_compressors/portable_a ir_tank-579122.asp http://tools.aubuchonhardware.com/power_tools/air_compressors/portable_a ir_tank-579130.asp http://tools.aubuchonhardware.com/power_tools/air_compressors/17-piece_a ccessory_kit-583340.asp Rob '97 328i sport '03 Expedition 3 bicycles 3 basketballs 2 footballs Has anyone had experience with a portable air tank? We have been considering a 5 gallon air storage tank to use at the track for topping off the tires. The question I can't seem to get an answer for is how this quantity of air translates into how many pounds in how many tires. I realize there are many variables at work here. As for our specifics, we are running 225x50x15 Kuhmos and usually have to add about 3-5 lbs per tire after they cool down overnight. Will a 5 gal. air tank hold enough air? Thanks, Barb '90 M3 '88 M5 '02 Suburban ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:58:44 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Portable Air Tanks Go to Pep Boys and buy a heavy-duty bicycle pump for about 12 bucks. I've used one for years.....it's cheap, portable, and good exercise! Gary Buff 95 318ti 03 325i ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:00:06 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] <E34/E39> Front Seat interchangeability I am curious if the front seats from an E39 will bolt up and work in an E34? Anyone? Thanks, Kirk Lachman Sin City Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:37:03 -0800 From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: Roll cages and Harnesses Dennis- "But don't say that my argument is specious because "my units are arbitrary" -- they are arbitrary for you too." Dennis, I understand your argument and its logic in fact with money as a factor there are always trade-offs. However, death, vegetative state, severe injury are not arbitrary if a direct line result of a low probability event. Minimizing the resulting consequence(s) with the appropriate safety equipment is coming at the solution from the low probability side of the curve. - -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:00:43 -0800 From: John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] FWD LSD (was Lightnings, etc.) > LSD should amplify torque steer (and other sensations.....so I hear). > That being said, torque steer is not that bad a trait as long as you > understand it is there.....Of course, torque steer is related to the > amount of torque a car makes. It shouldn't be that bad in a MINI, even a > cooperS. Now a turbo Saab....... Torque steer is very heavily dependent on a lot of factors - how firmly located the wheel is (e.g. are there big rubber bushings in the lower control arms? If they're mounted to a subframe, how is that subframe mounted to the body?), steering scrub radius, alignment, settings, even tire pressure. Saab 9000s have about as little torque steer as you'll ever see in a FWD vehicle. The earlier 99s and 900s were also quite good. The '94-'02 900/9-3 is pretty bad. The 9-5 isn't bad. John. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:49:49 -0800 From: "Polands" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #6187 Scott, It is very easy to do. Just go to your dealer parts counter and get two more brake light sockets, break out the black plastic center of the unused socket position, and install new socket with lamp. I did this years ago, just went out and checked, and don't see that I did any wiring change at all. The contacts are there. Steve Poland > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:53:27 -0500 > From: "Walker, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] E28 Rear brake lights > > Has anyone modified the brake light housing to use the inner most light bulb > socket that is not used from the factor. > This would double the brake lights to 4. I seem to remember a digest about > this some time ago. Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated. > > Scott > 86 528 (E28) > 350k+ (Speedo have broken) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:27:28 -0800 From: "J. Ochi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Portable air tanks At 11:20 AM 3/6/2003 -0500, Barbara Zmiewski wrote: >Has anyone had experience with a portable air tank? We have been >considering a 5 gallon air storage tank to use at the track for topping off >the tires. The question I can't seem to get an answer for is how this >quantity of air translates into how many pounds in how many tires. I >realize there are many variables at work here. As for our specifics, we are >running 225x50x15 Kuhmos and usually have to add about 3-5 lbs per tire >after they cool down overnight. Will a 5 gal. air tank hold enough air? I used to use a 5 gallon air tank for autocrossing, but it wouldn't hold enough air for a multiple-day event. It worked fine for a single airing up, but ran out on the second time. So, I bought a 9 gallon tank, which has been working just great. Only problem is that the bigger tank is significantly heavier - I've replaced the hose that comes with it with a disconnect, and use a longer coily hose instead. That allows me to leave the tank in one place and just stretch the hose around the car. It also lets me use the tank to power my brake bleeder and (for occasional use) my pop-rivet gun. I also tried a small battery powered compressor - hated it. The first one burned out in a month. Second one didn't last much longer. Third one got run over on grid. None of the three worked fast enough to add air on grid between runs. A better one, like the ones off-roaders use (like this: <http://www.fly-n-hi.com/sun.htm>) might work better than the WalMart specials I was using, but I really didn't want to spend that much money. Jim Ochi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:54:57 -0500 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: Roll cages and Harnesses Kevin wrote: >Dennis, I understand your argument and its logic in fact with money as a factor there are always trade-offs. However, death, vegetative state, severe injury are not arbitrary if a direct line result of a low probability event. Minimizing the resulting consequence(s) with the appropriate safety equipment is coming at the solution from the low probability side of the curve. _____________ I'm sorry, Kevin, but I don't understand what you mean by "However, death, vegetative state, severe injury are not arbitrary if a direct line result of a low probability event." When I used the word "arbitrary", it was because I couldn't assess a value for the COST and BENEFIT of the harness/roll bar situation that truly captured ALL of the REAL costs and benefits. Which includes more than just "money as a factor." Are you saying that because potential results include "death, vegetative state, severe injury", then there are no trade-offs? If so, I must completely disagree. There are trade-offs in EVERYTHING you and I do. By getting out of bed and going to work, we're trading off some level of safety for the benefit of earning an income. By skiing, we're trading off safety for enjoyment. Same thing for driving on the track. EVERY decision you make, consciously or unconsciously, involves a trade-off. Let me try this in as simple a manner as possible. Would you be safer if you wore a nomex suit and an expensive helmet and a harness and installed a roll cage -- all in your street car, for your daily commute? Sure you would. You would have decreased the likelihood of "death, vegetative state, severe injury" by several percent. But you don't. Why? Because there is an associated COST - and it's not just money. The COSTS that prevent you from doing that include your comfort, your time to change and brush your hair, and your desire to not look ridiculous cruising down your block. How is that different from the track? Well, the level of risk is heightened, but the SAME "direct line result" from a "low probability event" is STILL "death, vegetative state, severe injury". So, if you're willing to incur those costs for a small increase in safety at the track (let's arbitrarily call it from 98% to 99%), why aren't you willing to incur those same costs for a small increase in safety on the street (call it from 99% to 99.5%)? I don't mean to come across as argumentative, but my original point still is this -- every decision you make involves some sort of trade-off. For me, running harnesses without a roll bar is the level of trade-off I'm comfortable to accept. And I don't think that this conclusion is irrational, or particularly dangerous for that matter. Lastly, I disagree with those who believe that when the "ultimate" cost is concered, i.e., DEATH, than any rational cost/benefit analysis automatically gets tossed out the window. vty, - --Dennis . ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6189 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com |__________________________________________
