[uucdigest] Wednesday, March 12 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6208
_________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.bmwdatabase.com | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] WANTED: BRAND NEW O2 SENSOR (THREE WIRE) Re: [uuc] automanual- good greif. [uuc] <M cars> How to lube throttle linkage? Re: [uuc] WANTED: BRAND NEW O2 SENSOR (THREE WIRE) Re: [uuc] automanual- good greif. Re: [uuc] automanual- good greif. [uuc] <E28> Fenders Definately Need Rolling Re: [uuc] automanual- good greif. Re: [uuc] <E28> Fenders Definately Need Rolling [uuc] some E30 things on eBay Re: [uuc] <E28> Fenders Definately Need Rolling [uuc] Re: S54 wet dry sump Re: [uuc] automanuals; E, S and M ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:58:57 -0800 From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] WANTED: BRAND NEW O2 SENSOR (THREE WIRE) I need a brand new three-wire O2 sensor for my 89 M3. I need it to be brand new and never having been used. Before I go to the dealer I thought I might try to keep my money amongst digesters...Anyone? Chris 89 M3 http://www.inlacal.com 01 X5 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:19:58 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] automanual- good greif. "Binder, Larry - Spine" wrote: > It is probably referring to the SMGI (only available in Europe). A small > number of them were imported. I heard that they were also sold in > Canada.(?) no way an online site in the US is referring to SMG-I. any that were imported were imported as parts & retrofitted into cars. the ~45 cars imported into Canada were 3.0l cars, which never got SMG-I, which was available only with the later 3.2l engine. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:40:34 -0700 From: "Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <M cars> How to lube throttle linkage? The throttle linkage on my M3 motor is a bit sticky and actually squeaks when cycled through its travel. I have tried spraying various lubes on the shafts, springs etc, but all they seem to do is attract more dirt! What is the correct lube/maintenance procedure for these multi-throttle body M cars? Thanks, Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:04:51 -0500 From: "Eurowerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] WANTED: BRAND NEW O2 SENSOR (THREE WIRE) Chris, I can offer you a brand new BOSCH unit for $98.36 shipped to your door. I do have it in stock and can ship it tomorrow. Let me know.... (The price above does include shipping anywhere in the USA) Kirk A. Gilchrist EURO-WERKS / Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 859-745-0125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 888-522-0271 toll free ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:39:37 -0500 From: "mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] automanual- good greif. Lol, do you know what that means or "I was just kidding" means??? as I stated in the first line??? 90% of the people on this board KNOW exactly what the difference is between an auto and manual M3. The folks just now buying used M3s with no bmw experience might not, but any auto BMW driver knows about the trans as most auto BMWs since 86-87 have had those type of controls or something close, (selecting 3rd for sport mode etc). As to a newspaper being an authority on terminology, that is really news to me. Guess that is why I see so many V6 BMWs forsale in the classifieds too. It really is a inline 6 but since the classified form only listed V6 for the 6 cylinder option, it is a V-inline 6. Lol Good luck selling it, btw. Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:03 PM Subject: [uuc] automanual- good greif. > Here is the link to my local newspaper, "create your own ad"....You will > note that when you select in the various boxes for year, make, Model, > transmission etc, that Automanual is a transmission choice for the "1995 BMW > M3 Coupe, 2 dr.", Now, my interpretation is that there are manuals that > are only manuals, automatics that are only automatics and hybrid type > transmissions that as you can see in this internationally advertised venue, > are called "automanual". > > http://siy.cars.com/beta/vehicle_info.jhtml;jsessionid=DDLEZWKRVW5DXLAZGJBBA > BY?_requestid=15032 > > So, you may not like it, but I didn't make this up, I saw it there last > Friday when creating an ad, and I again, assumed it must be an acceptable > term, and was certainly more descriptive than "automatic" as to the > transmissions capabilities/ potential. Beyond that, I would assume that > ANYONE inquiring about the car would ASK what that meant if they did not > already know. If they didn't ask, they would be told regardless by me. > Any interpretation beyond that as too intent would perhaps speak more about > how you see the world or do things yourself. So, now you know MY opinion on > that topic. > > Furthermore I had no idea how the "builder" of the car officially referred > to it, and chose to use the term "Automanual" because I felt it was the > most descriptive choice because I had just seen it used and because it is > easier to type it than "5 speed automatic transmission with selectable > modes" so, sue me for being lazy. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:55:08 -0500 From: "mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] automanual- good greif. I am sure it is referring to Steptronic type auto transmissions, as dodge, BMW, porsche and others who are building them nowadays. BTW, E-36 M3 never had any type of steptronic/automanual trans in it beyond the SMG1 offered in europe Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: "ben keyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [uuc] automanual- good greif. > "Binder, Larry - Spine" wrote: > > > It is probably referring to the SMGI (only available in Europe). A small > > number of them were imported. I heard that they were also sold in > > Canada.(?) > > no way an online site in the US is referring to SMG-I. > > any that were imported were imported as parts & retrofitted into cars. > > the ~45 cars imported into Canada were 3.0l cars, which never got > SMG-I, which was available only with the later 3.2l engine. > > > > Ben > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:15:05 -0500 From: "Ron J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E28> Fenders Definately Need Rolling Hi All, Well the wheels are on the car.. and they are sweet. to review.. I just installed 17x7.5 TSW Blades with Dunlop SP Sport 2000E 225 45ZR17's on the car (85 535i) all the way around. the fronts are fine, but the rears rub when I go over a dip. Now I am not sure if my rear springs are sagging or not, but I need to get the fenders rolled cause they are rubbing.. So far I have been given a die grinder solution, along with a baseball bat solution. I would rather not cut the sheet metal on the car, and the bat solution is a bit hard to picture. The gap between the tire and the fender will definatly not accomodate a bat's width, so I would assume you need to have the car jacked up, and in that case, how do you get the car to roll back and forth if there is a jack underneath it. I would think that you would have to lower the car, however wouldnt the bat and up creasing the fender badly as soos as you drop the car? Anyone with further info, please let me know Cheers Ron J 85 535i with Nice new Wheels and rubbing fenders [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Dykaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ""Ron J"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 5:36 PM Subject: RE:<E28> Rims/Tires Delivered Tommorrow. Fenders Might Need Rolling > Ron, > > I used a die grinder to take the sheet metal down close to the spotwelds. > I'd grind some then drive the car through a dip near my house and listen for > scraping. Don't be fooled by dragging of the mupflaps on the ground. > > You're welcome to have a go in my garage... > > -doug > -- > to be removed from bmw, see http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi > or email "unsubscribe bmw" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:46:56 -0500 (EST) From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] automanual- good greif. Wait a second here. I've only been able to give a cursory read to these emails regarding some sort of automatic machine controlled transmission. Do you mean to say that someone came up with a way for a car to shift itself. I have got to tell my parents about this one. I think this will finally get them to give up the Studebaker. - - John S. PS - LOL _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:12:09 -0500 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E28> Fenders Definately Need Rolling You don't have to use a baseball bat, or if you do, you don't have to roll the car, just turn the wheel. Regardless, what you need is a fender roller. A tool built specifically to help gently fold over that lip of steel that's causing your problem. Hmmm, wonder if you could rent one of those things, somewhere?....................... ;-) - ----------------------------------------------------- BMW Special Tool Rentals Pay per incident tech support - ----------------------------------------------------- Brett Anderson KMS (440) 338 1650 www.koalamotorsport.com OSS committee member - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Well the wheels are on the car.. and they are sweet. to review.. I just > installed 17x7.5 TSW Blades with Dunlop SP Sport 2000E 225 45ZR17's on the > car (85 535i) all the way around. the fronts are fine, but the rears rub > when I go over a dip. Now I am not sure if my rear springs are sagging or > not, but I need to get the fenders rolled cause they are rubbing.. So far I > have been given a die grinder solution, along with a baseball bat solution. > I would rather not cut the sheet metal on the car, and the bat solution is a > bit hard to picture. The gap between the tire and the fender will definatly > not accomodate a bat's width, so I would assume you need to have the car > jacked up, and in that case, how do you get the car to roll back and forth > if there is a jack underneath it. I would think that you would have to > lower the car, however wouldnt the bat and up creasing the fender badly as > soos as you drop the car? > Anyone with further info, please let me know ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:25:20 -0800 (PST) From: Kyle Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] some E30 things on eBay I have a few items on ebay: <http://cgi6.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=bmw92510> Thanks for the BW Kyle Sanchez __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:33:47 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E28> Fenders Definately Need Rolling Gratuitous, shameless advertisements. I love it! : - -) Brad "Shifty" Couvillon - --- KMS - Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmmm, wonder if you could rent one of those things, > somewhere?....................... > > ;-) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:10:30 -0000 From: "Andrew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: S54 wet dry sump ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: "Is the theory that the S54 is that much more high strung than the S50B32 that it needs a set-up like this or is it just a measure to ensure added long-term durability ?" I suspect the higher cornering forces generated by the E46 M3 have as much to do with it as anything. I wonder whether the M3 CSL has a proper dry-sump system? Despite the popular opinion that the S5x engine is at the end of its development, BMW managed to squeeze out a bit more power (17 bhp) and a lot more performance (by ditching ~260 lb of weight). 360 bhp (DIN) out of 3.2 long-stroke litres is quite an achievement, assuming the CSL remains reliable. Andy T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:40:25 -0000 From: "Andrew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] automanuals; E, S and M Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes, quoting Brian: >"I believe the intent is to let those who may not know, (Mike?) that the M3 >auto transmission is specifically designed with a manual shift mode." The 4-speed GM autoboxes fitted to non-M E36 3ers sold outside of NA also have this E-S-M (or E-S-*) three-way feature. S and M are obvious, if you see what I mean, the E is for Economy, and the * is supposed to be a snowflake. I have absolutely no idea why BMW NA chose to specify the different A-M switch on most of its cars, although note that the sunken nature of the E-S-M switch allowed a lot more dust and detritus to collect, requiring regular cleaning out to prevent the switch gumming up. Did the short-lived Canada-only E36 320i have this E-S-* feature? "Will it shift automatically for you at redline or will it bounce off the rev limiter? Early automanuals would shift automatically for you...not sure if they still do that or not." If the lever is in 'D', the car will shift up at the redline with the switch in 'E' or 'S' at full throttle. At part-throttle the gearbox will delay upshifts, and downshift more promptly, in 'S' (which is just like selecting '3' with the lever in cars featuring the A-M switch). Position 'S' also locks out top gear until you hit the redline in 3rd, at which point it will shift up (assuming the selector lever is in 'D', otherwise it will hit the rev limiter). In fact if you leave the selector lever in any lower position, the car will not shift beyond that gear during acceleration, eventually hitting the rev limiter in the selected gear. Switch position 'M' allows the car to start in 2nd gear from a rest and shift up to 3rd very quickly, where it stays. Good for snow and ice. The only extra functionality afforded by the E-S-M switch is that lower gear positions can be selected with the gearbox brain still in Economy mode. Sports mode has to be selected explicitly. I noticed that the more recent Steptronic transmissions will absolutely not let you hit the rev limiter in any gear, shifting up even when you had selected a lower gear using the controller (one can hardly call it a lever in the traditional sense). The difference, I guess, is that with the modern Steptronic system you select a lower gear using the software, but the older PRND432 system allows you to select a gear using the hardware (a cable). Anyone remember the Sport-o-matic available on early '70s 911s? Andy T ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6208 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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