[uucdigest]           Tuesday, May 13 2003           Volume 03 : Number 6378



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       Re: [uuc] Re: Bullitt
       [uuc] Re: Bullitt
       RE: [uuc] RE: New 5er "Alibei"
       [uuc] <E23> Starter replaced with son
       [uuc] E36M3- Scary Clunk/Bang
       [uuc] Rough idle after changing plugs
       Re: [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] Bullitt
       Re: [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] Bullitt
       [uuc] RE: New 5er "Alibei"
       Re: [uuc] Rough idle after changing plugs
       Re: [uuc] Rough idle after changing plugs
       [uuc] Was Bullitt, now old US radials
       [uuc] Re: The Italian Job
       Re: [uuc] RE: New 5er "Alibei"

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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 19:19:23 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Bullitt

Can I wear my Spock ears?  I'm too old for a Ferengi mask.

Gary [I need NOS] Derian


> On Mon, 12 May 2003, Gary Derian wrote:
> 
> > Did they double clutch the upshifts on the GT-40?
> 
> Gary, are you planning to camp outside for the first tickets to "2 Fast 2
> Furious?"  You know we all expect you to. :-)
> 
> --Andre
> 

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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 16:32:04 -0700
From: John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Bullitt

> Yes, the overdub is actually from a racing GT-40.  The big giveaway
> being the number of shifts in the high speed scenes indicating a 5 speed
> tranny not available in the Mustang at that time

No, it was completely faked.  Amazing what you can do with a tape loop.

The constant upshifting is more in the 24-speed derailleur category, not 
the 5-speed automotive transmission.

John.

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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 16:35:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: New 5er "Alibei"

When I saw the pictures, I thought it was pretty bad. 
Even though the 5 ranks among my least favorite BMWs
in the looks department, I was bummed.  Then the wife
and I saw one a couple weeks back, and were both
pleasantly surprised.  It is much nicer than I
expected - same experience that I had with the latest
7.

Not the same experience with the Z4 though.  Maybe it
is an acquired taste.

Jason

- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Did you not notice the Pontiac Grand-Am nose?
> 
> Great, a BMW that now looks like a Pontiac.
> At least the 7 was just ugly. This is one is less
> ugly
> but it looks like a Pontiac.
> 
> Bora
> 
> 
> >-- Original Message --
> >From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: New 5er "Alibei"
> >Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:12:40 -0700
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >the front lights are the ugliest damn thing I've
> ever seen.
> >
> >M
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
> Of KKiely
> >Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 2:53 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [uuc] RE: New 5er "Alibei"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >I think I know what's wrong on the new 5er (E60?).
> It's the front and rear
> >lights. They are in conflict with the general lines
> of the car and seem
> to
> >converge on points not in harmony with the rest of
> the car.
> >Then there's the I for Inept Drive......
> >
> >-Kevin
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 17:27:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jonathan Brush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <E23> Starter replaced with son

 "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sez
Subject: [uuc] RE: E23 Starter replacement

"Well I finally got around to replacing the 
starter on the E23 ('85 735) this
weekend with my son."<lotsa details snipped>

Well, that's a fine howdy-do. What does your son think
about hanging under the car with a Snappy electric
impact wrench, just in case you decide to go for a
ride? ;^)

Jon<---waited to see if any other grammar police were
payin' attention, then couldn't resist the shot.

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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 20:43:07 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] E36M3- Scary Clunk/Bang

Folks- This is a strange one, and I could really use some of your collective wisdom 
and experience.  Slowing/rolling to a stop- about 5 mph. Felt BIG bang from front end 
somewhere- like when you bottom out in a pothole at speed (This is RI).  Sounded like 
it was from right lower front, but you know how these sounds can propagate.  
Afterwards, everything seemed OK.  At first I thought I had run over a big sharp rock- 
stopped, got out, looked around and there is nothing on the road- smooth pavement, no 
rocks or even pebbles.  Happened 3 or 4 more times, each time when transitioning from 
speed (40+ mph down to slow easy stop, after braking, releasing brake, and rolling 
slightly.  Everything is absolutely normal with this car except when this happens.  
Took car to dealer and they can find nothing wrong- all suspension components, 
bushings, steering joints, ball joints, brakes, hubs, etc are tight as a drum.

Does anyone have any ideas what could cause this?  The sound is scary, and I am 
concerned that something is coming apart, but what could this be?

Thanks in advance
Jay Kenty
'97 M3 with strange BIG clunk
'01 525i stick

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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 20:40:13 -0400
From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Rough idle after changing plugs

Gruppe,
I replaced my plugs today and at idle it is a little rough like it is missing.
WOT, no problem. I remember the same symptom the last time I changed
plugs but it either corrected itself or I got used to it.

Does the DME have to adjust to the new plugs?
- -- 
...steven

MINI Links     http://www.happytogether.com/minilinks/
318ti Registry http://www.happytogether.com/318ti/registry/

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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 20:11:31 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] Bullitt

Don't forget the green VW Beetle that gets passed 3 times in the chase
scene.
Gary Derian

>
> I remember reading a slightly different rendition that said they used
three
> Mustangs and (I think) two Chargers in filming, and in the end the yumps
> were done by a 289 car because they broke a 390 car trying.

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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 20:14:58 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] Bullitt

Its tough to get rubber to stick to steel.  Firestone was among the last to
figure it out.  When I was designing tires, I preferred fiberglass belts.
They were light weight and stiffer than rayon belts but the customers wanted
the protection of steel belts after watching those commercials of cars
driving over scrap metal.

Gary Derian
>
> Side note: the cars used in filming ran on Firestone F100 fabric-belted
> radials, which was one of if not the first widely-available US-made radial
> tire and was (according to published information, no personal experience)
a
> very good tire for its day.
>
> When the US automakers started demanding steel-belted radials with a soft
> ride for $bupkus per tire in the mid '70s, the US tire industry (and their
> products) pretty much came apart for ten years - the only decent US
radials
> for a LONG time were fabric-belted.
>
> John.
>

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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 17:51:00 -0700
From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: New 5er "Alibei"

Marco opines:
"the front lights are the ugliest damn thing I've ever seen."

Yea, Marco like Edward Teller eyebrows... no?

- -Kevin

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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 18:21:52 -0700
From: "JS Nord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Rough idle after changing plugs

Same plug or ??

I know the idle on my M30 is sensative to the plug type and gap.

Did you possibly crack one or have some sort of wiring problem?

Jeff
90 535i


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Schlossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "///uucdigest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 5:40 PM
Subject: [uuc] Rough idle after changing plugs


> Gruppe,
> I replaced my plugs today and at idle it is a little rough like it is
missing.
> WOT, no problem. I remember the same symptom the last time I changed
> plugs but it either corrected itself or I got used to it.
>
> Does the DME have to adjust to the new plugs?
> --
> ...steven
>
> MINI Links     http://www.happytogether.com/minilinks/
> 318ti Registry http://www.happytogether.com/318ti/registry/
>

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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 21:39:50 -0400
From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Rough idle after changing plugs

At 6:21 PM -0700 5/12/03, JS Nord wrote:
>Same plug or ??
Same plugs as came out.
>I know the idle on my M30 is sensative to the plug type and gap.
>
>Did you possibly crack one or have some sort of wiring problem?
Nah. I was very careful installing them. The idle will be fine then 
the engine will do a little burp. But very irregularly. As I said, it 
had the same symptom at my last Inspection II. Then I could have 
sworn I hadn't noticed it anymore.
Then again, it may be normal.

Now back to the movies.
- -- 
...steven
1996 328ti

MINI Links     http://www.happytogether.com/minilinks/
318ti Registry http://www.happytogether.com/318ti/registry/
Ofest caravan  http://www.happytogether.com/unofficialofest

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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 22:52:13 -0400
From: Bill Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Was Bullitt, now old US radials

> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Miller

> When the US automakers started demanding steel-belted radials with a soft
> ride for $bupkus per tire in the mid '70s, the US tire industry
> (and their
> products) pretty much came apart for ten years - the only decent
> US radials
> for a LONG time were fabric-belted.

Tell me about it. 1971 Olds Custom Cruiser 21 ft long 2 ton Tank bought new
with OEM Firestone radials. I get about 10k miles on a tire and shed the
tread. After about the fourth one (and replacement pro rated by the
Firestone dealer) I took it into the Michelin dealer and had him put a set
of his tires on it. And here I always blamed Firestone, never owned another
car with Firestones on it...........

Bill Matthews
Hockessin DE
00 M Geeze
some Volvos
other cars

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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 23:23:17 -0400
From: Chris Skene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: The Italian Job

>Regarding the Italian Job, any movie where they wreck a Lamborghini in the
>opening scene can't be all bad.
>
>Gary Derian

        I recall reading in a trade mag, maybe American 
Cinematographer, that they looked into building a mockup of the Lambo 
for the big crash into the front-end loader and the subsequent 
dumping it over a cliff. It turned out to be cheaper to buy a ratty 
one at a used car lot in Italy, polish it up and  shoot the scene. 
Same story with the three E-types. They bought three well-used ones 
for $2000 each, gave them a quickie paint job and then destroyed 
them, too. Same cliff, I believe. Try and find either of these cars 
cheap these days.
        The Lambo obviously wasn't the one advertised on the back 
cover of the current Motorsport magazine. 1970 Miura, 38,000 miles, 
previously owned by Frank Sinatra. Price on application...
        Believe or not, I found one in 1972 on a used car lot in 
Toronto, slightly ratty. I had a '70 911E in very nice shape and went 
to see if I could get a test drive. They did let me sit in it and rev 
the engine, but no drive until I made a serious offer. They were 
asking $19,000 Canadian, way beyond my means. It looked strange, 
sitting on a gravel lot in a run -down section of town, with strings 
of light bulbs overhead. I kept the Porsche for another six years.... 
Now I have '72 2002. I'm still living in the past, I guess.
- -- 
Chris Skene

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Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 21:22:15 -0700
From: marco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: New 5er "Alibei"

Pontiac?  What's that?

M

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Did you not notice the Pontiac Grand-Am nose?
> 
> Great, a BMW that now looks like a Pontiac.
> At least the 7 was just ugly. This is one is less ugly
> but it looks like a Pontiac.
> 
> Bora
> 
> 
> 
>>-- Original Message --
>>From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: New 5er "Alibei"
>>Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:12:40 -0700
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>the front lights are the ugliest damn thing I've ever seen.
>>
>>M
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of KKiely
>>Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 2:53 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: [uuc] RE: New 5er "Alibei"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>I think I know what's wrong on the new 5er (E60?). It's the front and rear
>>lights. They are in conflict with the general lines of the car and seem
> 
> to
> 
>>converge on points not in harmony with the rest of the car.
>>Then there's the I for Inept Drive......
>>
>>-Kevin
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 

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