[uucdigest]          Saturday, June 14 2003          Volume 03 : Number 6462



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       Re: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e
       RE: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e
       Re: [uuc] BMW rental in Munich, plus info on Nurburgring?
       [uuc] "Rendezvous"
       [uuc] Re: "Rendezvous"
       [uuc] Carbon Fiber Hood
       RE: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e
       RE: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e
       RE: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 01:05:50 -0400
From: Michael Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Couvillon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > It is not hard to find a good used325iC for
> > $2500-3500.
>
> If it's an '87 or '88 or so. . . and an auto. . . and
> with bad paint. . . and stock wheels.
>
> A good later model iC is a 5-figure car.


Not if you look in the right places.   And I have never seen a E30iC for
five figures, unless 1. its a euro M3 conv.  2. an idiot is selling it  3.
It has a few pounds of blow in the spare tire.

The market is soft for them now, they are old, require alot of maintance
etc.   I can find a perfect 5spd for 5-6k around Atlanta or can find cars
that need work for 2-4k all day long.

The best deal about Neil's iC is the fact all the mechanicals are in top
notch shape and does not need any maintance.  Just a new top and seat
covers, plus the minor small stuff inside.   Instrument cluster etc.  I am
stunned nobody has not jumped on it yet.   He came up with the perfect
suspension for that car, it is a blast to drive, tight suspension, the
perfect exhaust note etc.   Wish I had found it before I bought my iC

Mike

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 01:47:33 -0400
From: "Rick Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e

>
> I'm thinking that the surge idle is the idle control module which could be
> replaced easily enough but perhaps it could be evidence of a bastardized
> match up of engine and ECU and other components. Would the car ever run if
> the correct ECU module is not there? Are there other questions I need to
ask
> related to swap issues.
>

You can solve the surging idle problem for FIVE CENTS.

At least, this works great on an '85 325e...

1.  Find a loose US nickle coin beneath a couch cushion.

2.  Drill a hole in the center.  A quarter inch usually works, sometimes
     3/8" works better.

3.  Remove the electrical plug from the idle valve.  Using a zip-tie or
     spare twist-tie from a loaf of bread, secure the elect. cable out of
the way
     so it doesn't just flop around.

4.  Remove one hose from the idle valve.   Either one works.

5. Insert the modified (illegally, so never show this mod to the US
Treasury)
    coin into the hose.

6.  Put the hose back on the idle valve and tighten the hose clamp.

7.  Start engine.  If idle is too low, increase hole size.

8.   Drive for years without worrying about the idle problem.

Rick Evans
Orlando, FL

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 12:55:25 +0200 (CEST)
From: John Firestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW rental in Munich, plus info on Nurburgring?

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Neil N. wrote:

> If they tow away my 3er, I'll take a cab to Avis and
> get whatever I can, but if it's a public day, I assure
> you, I'll be on it.  :)
>

I would go in any case, just give the track and the repo man your
considerable respect. There are some seemingly routine bits of the
Nuerburgring that are not and are unforgiving (the first two crashes I
know), and the surprisingly unroutine bits multiply as the track gets
wet (the third crash I know about).  And if you try to argue with the
repo man that you can drive their car wherever you please, you will
soon be walking.

> "Going back" to the track at a later date will do nothing to reduce
> the chance of wreckage, as even now I have no intention to be stupid
> and bite it on a blind turn.  I just want to drive the track, that's
> all - albeit briskly, where prudent.

The turns that marked the start of the three crashes I know about were
as plain as day but even the track junkies who crashed on them were
blind to their risk. It takes many visits before you can see all the
places where you have to be careful, which is why I wrote: remember
you can always go back!

 -John
 '96 318is

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 10:27:13 -0400
From: TR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] "Rendezvous"

Some Dvd players , although they will play everything else such as Mp3,
will not play dvd's from Region 2 ,U.K.. The encoding methodology is
definately different than region one. 

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 07:26:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gregg Siegfried <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: "Rendezvous"

If it is a region 2 disk and your player is unforgiving about things like
that, you need to get a region-free or multi-region DVD player.  Or pull
the content off with a computer and write it to your own "region 1" disk
with it.

http://www.dvdoverseas.com/store/index.html?catalog86_0.html
http://www.nerd-out.com/darrenk/

I suggest one of the APEX players or a Daewoo DVG.

Good luck,
Gregg Siegfried

00 M5

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 10:01:53 -0500
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Carbon Fiber Hood

Someone listed a carbon fiber hood for sale for an E36 and I lost the
message.  Could you please contact me with the information if you still
have the hood.

Dave 95 M3

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 09:01:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e

Rick,

Why spend 5 cents when you can spend 1?  I used a
penny when I did this on my 528e.  :-)

Brad "Shifty" Couvillon
'85 Euro 535i
'87 528e <-- no engine, so no ICV needed!
www.fatdaddybmw.com



- --- Rick Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You can solve the surging idle problem for FIVE
> CENTS.
> 
> . . . *details about the penny (nickel?) 
> kludge* . . .

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 11:19:30 -0500
From: "Sam Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e

That's the neatest thing I have heard lately. Many a BMW has been dumped
because for one reason or another all the equations can't be balanced to get
the thing to settle down. I always suspected that the problem with the idle
surge is that the modulator is playing catch-up (sticky valve OR SOMETHING)
with just what air the engine needs. If it would just settle down and not
react so fast it wouldn't be first fast then slow. For any given warmed up
engine, that amount is pretty well fixed. The beauty of the idle control
module is that when it works it takes care of a lot of variables and makes
the car idle just right under all kinds of situations, (air conditioner
turned on and off, on, engine cold, engine hot, change in altitude, idling
immediately after a drag race with your favorite enemy) but for 5 cents you
can have it the old fashioned way which works, just figure out how  much air
it needs and let it have that much.  I be she idles a little faster some
days and a little slow on others but what the heck. She  drives much better
than with the surge.

Why didn't I think of that?



- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Evans
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e


>
> I'm thinking that the surge idle is the idle control module which could be
> replaced easily enough but perhaps it could be evidence of a bastardized
> match up of engine and ECU and other components. Would the car ever run if
> the correct ECU module is not there? Are there other questions I need to
ask
> related to swap issues.
>

You can solve the surging idle problem for FIVE CENTS.

At least, this works great on an '85 325e...

1.  Find a loose US nickle coin beneath a couch cushion.

2.  Drill a hole in the center.  A quarter inch usually works, sometimes
     3/8" works better.

3.  Remove the electrical plug from the idle valve.  Using a zip-tie or
     spare twist-tie from a loaf of bread, secure the elect. cable out of
the way
     so it doesn't just flop around.

4.  Remove one hose from the idle valve.   Either one works.

5. Insert the modified (illegally, so never show this mod to the US
Treasury)
    coin into the hose.

6.  Put the hose back on the idle valve and tighten the hose clamp.

7.  Start engine.  If idle is too low, increase hole size.

8.   Drive for years without worrying about the idle problem.

Rick Evans
Orlando, FL

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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 11:28:28 -0500
From: "Sam Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e

I am currently in Florence, Al moving back to Lawrenceburg, Ky where my son
lives; next week. Where is your roommates car? Any where with in driving
range of these two places.  You hit the nail on the head as I was thinking
all along if my son wants this vintage BMW he should just go find one he
wants. I have been thinking also that I may want to upgrade to a nice 325iC.
My wife has watched me working the 318i into a reliable car and enjoys the
way it drives but every time we see a nice convertible her eyes really light
up.  I think if I got into one of those I could eat my cake and have it to.
I would have a fun car that I didn't mind putting real money into and also
get my truck back. She wont accept the BMW as her car until I do something
with the drivers seat; its a disaster. My plan has been to replace the seat
after I had the car up to snuff mechanically. I have reached that point
almost, (needs shocks and new paint) and am about ready to spring for the
final push;  seat, paint, shocks, and radio.

Perhaps I would rather put the money into a newer 3 series convertible.

PS: I just noticed on another post that there may be an inside story about
your roomates car; that' OK.:)

- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Lawrence
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e


I think the big question is

How Much for this car?

Going from an I to an E is a backwards step, and I am sure they did it since
people tend to give away E motors vs $500-750 for an I motor.

Also, what condition is the top, how long ago was it replaced etc?  A new
top and seals can be had for about $700-800, so keep that in mind.

It is not hard to find a good used325iC for $2500-3500.

My roommate is selling a great running 5spd 89 model with the later small
bumpers, great paint etc, just needs top & seat covers  for $2990.

Mike
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:38 PM
Subject: RE: [uuc] 87 325i swap to 325e


>
> I have been enjoying a 1985 318i for the past few years and doing my own
> work with much help reading this board I might add. My 25 year old son who
> lives nearby has witnessed my fun and wants a similar car. he has found a
> 1987 325i convertible (that's a 325iC; right?) that has had a 325e engine
> and tranny from a wrecked car swapped in, the owner says the car runs
really
> well, doesn't burn oil or drip,  but that it surge idles. We have gone
over
> a lot of other stuff about suspension, seats, speedometer, etc and we
accept
> the situation as it is.
>
> I'm thinking that the surge idle is the idle control module which could be
> replaced easily enough but perhaps it could be evidence of a bastardized
> match up of engine and ECU and other components. Would the car ever run if
> the correct ECU module is not there? Are there other questions I need to
ask
> related to swap issues.
>
> Also he mentions using the solid drive line out of the 325e instead of
> keeping the flexible coupling.  I don't have any idea of what to make of
> that. I am only familiar with the flex coupling set up.
>
> I would appreciate any specific facts or your opinions about the 325i to
> 325e engine and tranny swap. How do I make sure it is done right and also
is
> it even advisable. I prefer 325i but 325e is OK and that is not my
concern,
> just the issues about the swap. I basically avoid those things like the
> plague because one thing seems to lead to another but know that it is as
> good as one's knowledge about what one is doing.  There is a good way to
do
> it I am sure.  But there also might be a way of just throwing something
> together that runs in the short haul so it can be dumped on someone else.
>
> My son needs this as transportation in a 2 car family. His wife drives the
> new car while he drives the old wreck (fun :) )car. he can't afford a
> disaster decision. It has to run most of the time except for timeout to do
> projects like replacing broken stuff.
>
>
>

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