[uucdigest] Monday, July 14 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6571
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] factory manuals on ebay [uuc] Can't start E38 740iL Re: [uuc] Seeking E36 FAQs [uuc] Re: Need advice on '97 M3 [uuc] Re: Need advice on '97 M3 [uuc] Re: <misc> cigarette smoke smell [uuc] Re: <Seeking E36> FAQ RE: [uuc] Can't start E38 740iL [uuc] Range Rover P38 Valve Covers [uuc] Buying wheels RE: [uuc] Range Rover P38 Valve Covers Re: [uuc] Range Rover P38 Valve Covers Re: [uuc] (LONGSHOT) WANTED: HARTGE MUFFLER FOR 88 M6 RE: [uuc] Re: <misc> cigarette smoke smell ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:00:17 -0400 From: "Michael Wendell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] factory manuals on ebay i've just listed some repair manuals on ebay. 1984 BMW 318i factory repair manual: http://www.kwyjibo.com/ebay.asp?2423801097 Bosch L-Jet factory diagnostic and repair manual: http://www.kwyjibo.com/ebay.asp?2423801554 starting bid for each is $12, shipping is $8. m. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:15:28 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Can't start E38 740iL A good friend with a '95 740iL came over yesterday. While I was hard-wiring a V1 in another friend's car, this guy tried to troubleshoot his non-working horn. We all went inside to take a Halo break, but my friend mistakenly left the ignition on -- engine off, but ignition on. Three hours later, the battery was DEAD. Hooked up a charger, let it run an hour, but no luck. Tried jumping it from my 740, but no luck there either. The battery definitely has enough juice, I think, but the starter doesn't even turn over. Not even a click. I checked to make sure that the transmission was in Park (tried both Park and Neutral), and made sure to step on the brake. Nothing. Everything works EXCEPT the starter. Tried arming and disarming the alarm, using the remote and manually. Tried disconnecting the battery, waiting five minutes, then reconnecting. No luck. It just refuses to turn over. ANY suggestions? Much appreciated, - --Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:02:13 -0400 From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Seeking E36 FAQs - ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > GM and ZF E36 boxes are longer lasting than E30 ZF4HP22 ones, but not by much. > Just say NO to ZF4HP22 trannies that came with E30 six cylinder > automatics! I would just like to add. The ZF 4HP22 is a good transmission and with proper maintance, can easily outlast the car. My family has owned about 6 vehicles that had the 4hp22 transmission in it and never ONCE did we have a problem. I bought a used 87 535i automatic with the 4hp22 with 150k miles on it, drove it for another very hard 150k miles. Not a single problem out of it ever. I currently have a 88 325i automatic 4hp22 with about 180k miles on it. original transmission and it works perfectly. In the E30 application, they are actually quite good, as they are not remotely stressed by the small block 6. On the other hand My parents have a 94 325i GM turbohydromatic 4 spd that expired right at 110k miles. It was clean on the inside and failed due to a plastic washer which became brittle and broke. allowing metal shaft to wear the metal housing to the point of not being able to fix it. My parents 97 528i GM auto is starting to act up really bad aswell. Slips for the first 5 mins in the morning, shifts very hard, I would say it is about to give up. So from my view point, the ZF4HP22 is a damn good transmission and the newer GM turbohdyromaticrap is not a transmission you want to own. good luck Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:09:52 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: Need advice on '97 M3 Mark, isn't that kind of like saying that the sun rises in the east? Sounds normal to me. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 23:42:11 -0700 >From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [uuc] Need advice on '97 M3 > >Jim Bassett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> There's more I'm sure I'm forgetting at 11PM (and several beers :-)) - >> search the archives, both UUC and E36M3 (http://www.bmw-m.net/) > >Battery. Stock batteries go at 5-year intervals. > >- - Mark >- -- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:11:24 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Need advice on '97 M3 Yes, but it's something to watch out for, right? Especially if you�ve not owned the car since new. - - Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mark, isn't that kind of like saying that the sun rises in the east? > Sounds normal to me. > > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA > >> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 23:42:11 -0700 >> From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [uuc] Need advice on '97 M3 >> >> Jim Bassett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> There's more I'm sure I'm forgetting at 11PM (and several beers :-)) - >>> search the archives, both UUC and E36M3 (http://www.bmw-m.net/) >> >> Battery. Stock batteries go at 5-year intervals. >> >> - - Mark >> - -- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - - Mark - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:16:11 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: <misc> cigarette smoke smell Sure Kevin, just torch the whole interior. That will pretty much take care of any previous smells. Or you could try replacing all the seats, door panels, carpets and headliner. Scott Miller Not Much Help Today GGC BMW CCA >Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 22:58:30 -0500 (CDT) >From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] <misc> cigarette smoke smell > >Anybody got a good suggestion for how to eliminate a bad cigarette smell from >a car's interior > >- - k ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:52:04 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: <Seeking E36> FAQ Oops. Hey, it was early this morning, I wasn't awake yet. Yeah, that's it. There should probably be a "K" in there somewhere... Scott >Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:06:11 -0700 (PDT) >From: Jonathan Brush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] <Seeking E36> FAQ > >From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc >sez: ><SNIP> >But I need evidence of >timing belt replacement >within the last 4 years or 50 miles, or else I >add $400 for parts and labor, > >Hmmm, 4 yrs or 50 miles? I'd be suspicious right >there.... > >Jon<----good at proofreading other people's work.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:35:27 -0400 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Can't start E38 740iL Tell him to go home and get another key. EWS may have gone out of synch with the dead battery, because the key was on. Even another key may not do it, he may need to get the DME and EWS "aligned" which takes a Modic or GT-1 dealer computer. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Liu > We all went inside to take a Halo break, but my friend mistakenly left the > ignition on -- engine off, but ignition on. Three hours later, > the battery was DEAD. > Hooked up a charger, let it run an hour, but no luck. Tried > jumping it from my 740, but no luck there either. > The battery definitely has enough juice, I think, but the starter doesn't > even turn over. Not even a click. I checked to make sure that the > transmission was in Park (tried both Park and Neutral), and made sure to > step on the brake. Nothing. Everything works EXCEPT the starter. > Tried arming and disarming the alarm, using the remote and > manually. Tried > disconnecting the battery, waiting five minutes, then reconnecting. No > luck. It just refuses to turn over. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:37:14 -0700 From: John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Range Rover P38 Valve Covers > I can't believe how tough it was to find a 5/16 12 point socket for my > 1998 Range Rovers P38s valve cover bolts (almost every place I went to > only had 6 point). I happened to find one at Orchard Supply Hardware > (now owned by Sears). I also bought a set of the new Craftsman locking > 1/4" extenders that work great. All 8 of my valve cover bolts were real > loose. Speaking of Range Rover, Ford threw a bunch of money on the table to run a ride-and-drive for them up at the Sonoma Mission Inn over this past weekend. There were enough non-motoring activities that the spouse thought it was the best ride-and-drive she's been to yet. Of course, there's a whole lot of BMW in those Fords, right down to the M62TU under the hood. I didn't pick up on one point until another attendee mentioned it - when did BMW screw up the Steptronic shifter by making pull-back an upshift? The Rover's Step is still pull-back-to-downshift, and it feels more normal. Otherwise, it works fine, feels pretty heavy, goes over rocks and through holes just fine, the one I drove had a rattle in the back end (not sure how long it's been doing these ride-and-drives, though) and one that I rode in had some wrinkles in the headliner. According to some press comments, Ford management is so ticked off at the LR workforce for blocking efforts to get them out of their quality pit that some are suggesting shutting down manufacture at Solihull and moving the whole thing to Jag facilities. John. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:30:28 -0700 From: "Marvin Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Buying wheels Have any of you had experience with www.aaarims.com or www.thewheelexchange.com ? What about "original equipment replica" wheels? They are 1/2 the price of official BMW wheels. I am looking for extra wheels for a 2003 330i, preferably BMW Style 68 which comes with the Sports Package. Marvin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:40:56 -0400 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Range Rover P38 Valve Covers > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Miller > I didn't pick up on one point until another attendee mentioned it - when > did BMW screw up the Steptronic shifter by making pull-back an upshift? > The Rover's Step is still pull-back-to-downshift, and it feels > more normal. BMW changed the steptronic directions with the introduction of SMG, which is pull back to upshift, push forward to downshift. Funny, it's obviously a personality thing, because I believe that's the way it should be, while Kathy agrees with you. It took her some time to get used to the SMG in her M3 because she felt it was "backwards". Brett Anderson KMS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:54:39 -0400 From: "Michael McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Range Rover P38 Valve Covers John Miller said: <snip> > I didn't pick up on one point until another attendee mentioned it - when > did BMW screw up the Steptronic shifter by making pull-back an upshift? > The Rover's Step is still pull-back-to-downshift, and it feels more normal. > What? how is it screwd up? pull back should always be upshift. Unfortunately its not that way on any of the VW/audi stuff currently, which is one of the things that bothers me when driving the Passat W8. (gauges are reversed too. speedo and tach are swapped, as are fuel level and coolant temp.) I'm glad BMW finally fixed it. BMW finally caught on to what every race car gearbox manufacurer was already doing. when you are accelerating its easier to pull back on the lever, when braking its easier to push forward. you're not going against the forces acting on your body that way. probably not a big deal in a streat car, but in a race car that does 2+Gs worth of acceleration, and peaks just past 5G's when braking, that can make a huge difference in driver fatigue. - -Michael McCoy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:06:35 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] (LONGSHOT) WANTED: HARTGE MUFFLER FOR 88 M6 It would be the same as a Euro E28 M5 and nothing else. It would be much bigger in diameter than a regular 5 or 6 series. Ed Chris Marino wrote: >Anyone out there have a Hartge muffler for my 88 M6? My guess is that >it would be compatible with all 6 series (and maybe e28 5 series) unless >someone tells me different. > >Chris >88 M6 >89 M3 http://www.inlacal.com >01 X5 > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:38:56 -0500 From: "John Bunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: <misc> cigarette smoke smell > Sure Kevin, just torch the whole interior. That will pretty much take > Or you could try replacing all the seats, door panels, carpets and > headliner. But that might not get the stuff inside the vents, and under the dash, which requires replacement of the entire HVAC system. Seriously, I bought a car with this problem once and I asked a dealer to recommend a detail shop specifically for this. I took it to the detail shop they sent me to, and explained the problem. They cleaned and shampooed the entire interior - seats, carpets, headliner, everything. I threw away the floormats. I had them NOT use any of the "air fresheners" as they just mask the problem. This eliminated 99.9% of the smoke smell - and I have a pretty fine nose for it. On their recommendation, for the next few weeks, I left the car parked in the sun with the windows down and sunroof open (weather permitting). It was probably a couple of months before I would no longer caught the occasional whiff, but I was very satisfied with the results, and I got a great deal on the offending vehicle because of the smoke. I'd hesitate to do it again unless I just had to have the particular car, but it can be done successfully. John ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6571 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | |==================================================== | Turner Motorsport Inc . 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