[uucdigest] Wednesday, August 6 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6631
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(slightly OT) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 14:59:41 -0400 From: "Dave Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] [E36] Brake Circuit Failure? Just got a Brake Circuit Failure warning on the Check Control on a 94 325. Brakes appear to be working fine. Can anybody tell me how bad this is or if there are any DIY checks? Dave Kelley 94 325i 98 M3/4 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:59:39 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] GOD, I love my wife On a miserably humid day, I settle down on the couch with the Principessa Charlize for our post-prandial nap. Max the Uber Dog is sprawled out at my feet. I wake up out of my stupor and realize that the Lovely Jamie (tm) has left the house. A short while later, we hear the rumble as the 911 pulls into the garage. She comes back into the house with her nomex driving shoes on. Earlier today, I asked her whether she wanted to go to New Hampshire International Speedway next week for some track driving. Where had she been this afternoon? Well, since she hasn't been behind the wheel on the track since last year (what with the whole "really shouldn't be drifting the car through the Essess at 140 mph when you're 7 months pregnant" thing), and because she's been driving the B(aby) M(ax) W(agon) with the Steptronic transmission as of late, she was a bit concerned about her ability to heel-and-toe shift the 6-speed on the Porsche. So she spent half-an hour driving the cloverleaf near our house, from Route 2 onto I-95 onto Route 2 onto I-95 onto Route 2, practicing her downshifting.... God, I love my wife. vty, - --Dennis . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:10:20 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] [E36] Brake Circuit Failure? Don't worry, last week my check engine light came on. I opened the hood to check my engine and it was still there. What next? Gary Derian > Just got a Brake Circuit Failure warning on the Check Control on a 94 > 325. Brakes appear to be working fine. > > Can anybody tell me how bad this is or if there are any DIY checks? > > Dave Kelley > 94 325i > 98 M3/4 > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:51:19 -0400 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] [E36] Brake Circuit Failure? Bwaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaa!!!! That's great. Gary, you just made my whole day. Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [uuc] [E36] Brake Circuit Failure? > > > Don't worry, last week my check engine light came on. I > opened the hood to > check my engine and it was still there. What next? > > Gary Derian > > > > Just got a Brake Circuit Failure warning on the Check > Control on a 94 > > 325. Brakes appear to be working fine. > > > > Can anybody tell me how bad this is or if there are any DIY checks? > > > > Dave Kelley > > 94 325i > > 98 M3/4 > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:52:31 -0500 From: "Malcolm Reitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] [E36] Brake Circuit Failure? This typically means the brake light switch on the pedal is going bad. It is a cheap, if uncomfortable, DIY job to replace the switch. http://www.logun.org/brake.htm has a good write-up on the process. Malcolm '88 M5 '98 328i - -----Original Message----- From: Dave Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] [E36] Brake Circuit Failure? Just got a Brake Circuit Failure warning on the Check Control on a 94 325. Brakes appear to be working fine. Can anybody tell me how bad this is or if there are any DIY checks? Dave Kelley 94 325i 98 M3/4 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 13:50:07 -0700 From: "Mark Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] e36 Bending all my wheels Please comment! <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <P><BR>I have bent my 17 inch aftermarket wheels. OK so I was naiive about this and bought a set of "lower tier" wheels, and this can happen. </P> <P>So, I switched to a set of 17 inch OEM BMW Contour wheels from a 97 M3. They are better but keep bending too. </P> <P>Can anyone comment on a FINAL solution they have proven workable?. Expecially interested to hear from someone WHO WAS SUCCESSFUL at eliminating bent wheels. Tire rack says SSR's are strong, but they also say it is completely my risk to find out if they are wrong.</P> <P>Anything that can help would be GREATLY appreciated. Will consider stock, oem, aftermarket, going back down to 16" wheels, WHATEVER. </P> <P>Thanks,</P> <P>Mark Miller</P> <P>bent e36 wheel collector </P> <P>'92 is (stiff), 97 is (even stiffer). </P></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>MSN 8 helps <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMLENUS/2752??PS=";>ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES.</a> Get 2 months FREE*.</html> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:07:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Pao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] How does one negotiate... (slightly OT) My personal experience is with BMW Financial so it may not be applicable to Audi. Just last year, my lease was up on the 540. The residual was much higher on lease agreement than market value, that's a good thing for me. I tried two or three times to negotiate with BMW Financial to buy the car directly from them at lease end. They would not change one cent on the buyout cost. The encouraged me to talk to my BMW retailer. So I went to the dealer I leased my car from. The sales manager pulls up the record from BMW Financial and printout all the terms of the lease and new buyout cost. He give me a copy of the printout and told me to go home think about it. Well, buyout cost for me has been discounted by $4500. I went home and cranked out all the numbers for re-leasing as CPO or financing the car, it worked out that I CPO the car for $1200 so I can get the 3.9% CPO finance rate. Since it is CPO, I can get $500 rebate through BMW CCA rebate. I did shop around with other dealers and see how much they would offer for buyout. Some will only sell to me at the original lease buyout, others after some probing will let me have it with the lower buyout. So dealership will have different policies. CPO price is also different. My car was in premium conditions. The only things dealer did to CPO the car is Inspection I, which my car was almost due with one green light left, wipers, and all new brake pads. I know the front brake pads had as least 1/2 life left since I changed them not too long ago but the dealer still changed it out. This was all included with the $1200 CPO. I often wonder if I had bald tires what they would have done or charged me for a new set. They did skip detailing of the car since I told them I don't like the way they detail cars. My guess is the buyout cost change daily or weekly. Of course YMMV, especially with Audi. Ted - can never afford a new BMW or slightly used BMW without financing 99 540/6 =============================== Dennis asked: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 13:26:37 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] How does one negotiate... (slightly OT) on the purchase of a lease return? A good friend of mine lease an Audi A6 4.2 three years ago, and the lease expires in a month. It needs probably $1k worth of cosmetic work to return it. The residual value is about $5k above the wholesale value of the car. Thus, theoretically, he could just pay the $1k, return the car, then buy the same car and save some money. Audi Leasing has to know this, so I presume that they should be willing to negotiat the buy-back price; they can make a few bucks more than if they had to wholesale it. So, my question - is a negotiation of the lease-end purchase price common? If so, is it done with the dealer, or does he have to negotiate with Audi Leasing? Any advice would be appreciated. vty, - - --Dennis (buys all his cars with cash) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 17:10:33 -0500 From: "Al Buchanan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Need to rent a BMW in Denver CO area Gruppe: I want to rent a BMW or other performance car in the Denver, Colorado area between Aug. 29 and Sept. 2. The "best" deal I can find so far (the only one, actually) is a Z3 for $199/day. Seems a bit high to me, but maybe I'm just behind the times. Any suggestions for alternative sources? A roadster would be nice but it's not a deal-breaker. I would even settle for a 330 if available. - --Al (1984 633 CSi back in Chicago; too big to carry on airplane) Alfred L. Buchanan Fedota, Childers & May, P.C. Three First National Plaza 70 West Madison Street Suite 3900 Chicago, Illinois 60602 Direct Dial Telephone: 312.853.9632 Facsimile: 312.236.8559 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alfred L. Buchanan Fedota, Childers & May, P.C. Three First National Plaza 70 West Madison Street Suite 3900 Chicago, Illinois 60602 Direct Dial Telephone: 312.853.9632 Facsimile: 312.236.8559 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 17:26:20 -0500 From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] How does one negotiate... (slightly OT) Good info, thanks! Sounds like exactly what I want to do. Was the dealership able to give you this new $4500 off number BEFORE you turned your car in or did you have to turn it in first? You are correct in that the rules for the lease turn in are very generous VS the CPO rules. You only need a very little tread for a lease turn in, but a lot more for a CPO car. In my case, I will not need new tires for lease end, but I will for CPO. So if I can get a good buyout, then I will put new tires on before turning the car in. That way I get what I want for a TireRack prices. Did you get a BMWCCA reward when you leased the car? The fine print says you can't get more than one reward for the same VIN - if you got it when new then no $500 at CPO. Since I am so dumb, I didn't join BMWCCA 1 year before getting my car, so I missed the reward ($1000 at the time) but I will be able claim it as CPO. FWW, I had BMW financial give me a early lease termination buy out price a few months back. Based on that I would say the car is/was discounted. Comparing the buyout price VS end of lease buyout price there seemed to be a lot of difference. Dennis 330i silver/black/manual/sp/pp/xenon/cd At 02:07 PM 08/06/2003 -0700, Ted Pao wrote: >So I went to the dealer I leased my car from. The sales manager pulls up the >record from BMW Financial and printout all the terms of the lease and new >buyout cost. He give me a copy of the printout and told me to go home think >about it. Well, buyout cost for me has been discounted by $4500. I went home >and cranked out all the numbers for re-leasing as CPO or financing the car, it >worked out that I CPO the car for $1200 so I can get the 3.9% CPO finance >rate. >Since it is CPO, I can get $500 rebate through BMW CCA rebate. > >I did shop around with other dealers and see how much they would offer for >buyout. Some will only sell to me at the original lease buyout, others after >some probing will let me have it with the lower buyout. So dealership will >have >different policies. CPO price is also different. > >My car was in premium conditions. The only things dealer did to CPO the car is >Inspection I, which my car was almost due with one green light left, wipers, >and all new brake pads. I know the front brake pads had as least 1/2 life left >since I changed them not too long ago but the dealer still changed it out. >This >was all included with the $1200 CPO. I often wonder if I had bald tires what >they would have done or charged me for a new set. They did skip detailing of >the car since I told them I don't like the way they detail cars. > >My guess is the buyout cost change daily or weekly. Of course YMMV, especially >with Audi. > >Ted - can never afford a new BMW or slightly used BMW without financing >99 540/6 > >=============================== >Dennis asked: > >Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 13:26:37 -0400 >From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] How does one negotiate... (slightly OT) > >on the purchase of a lease return? A good friend of mine lease >an Audi A6 >4.2 three years ago, and the lease expires in a month. It needs >probably >$1k worth of cosmetic work to return it. The residual value is >about $5k >above the wholesale value of the car. > >Thus, theoretically, he could just pay the $1k, return the car, >then buy the >same car and save some money. Audi Leasing has to know this, so >I presume >that they should be willing to negotiat the buy-back price; they >can make a >few bucks more than if they had to wholesale it. > >So, my question - is a negotiation of the lease-end purchase >price common? >If so, is it done with the dealer, or does he have to negotiate >with Audi >Leasing? > >Any advice would be appreciated. > >vty, > >- --Dennis (buys all his cars with cash) > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! 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