[uucdigest] Saturday, August 9 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6647
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: RE: [uuc] Recent dealer experience RE: [uuc] Recent dealer experience Re: [uuc] E30 Bumpers Re: [uuc] E30 Bumpers RE: [uuc] Recent dealer experience Re: [uuc] Fraud Warning - Ryan Harker RE: [uuc] Driving School vs. Racing School - results [uuc] Was: GOD, I love my wife--now Unkie Kartlos's dream sugar m oma RE: [uuc] Re: "Renting a BMW in the SF Bay Area" Link Re: RE: [uuc] Re: "Renting a BMW in the SF Bay Area" Link RE: [uuc] Recent dealer experience Re: RE: [uuc] Re: "Renting a BMW in the SF Bay Area" Link RE: [uuc] Re: "Renting a BMW in the SF Bay Area" Link ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 23:56:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "Curtis A. Ingraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Recent dealer experience > I respectfully disagree! My mechanic has dismounted and remounted 8 tires, > swapped tires and rims plus balancing in less than a hour and a half, > ... Plus he charged me $80 or about what every > mechanic should charge, a very reasonable $40 per hour. I wouldn't be to quick to judge the labor rate. Richard didn't tell us where he's from, and that can make a big difference. Here in the San Francisco Bay Area, the rate for a good independent shop can be $90 per hour, and dealers charge $100-150 per hour. Cost of living, you know ... Curt Ingraham 72 2002tii, 73 2002 Oakland, CA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 11:57:44 +0100 From: "Andrew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Recent dealer experience Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: "You, you got ripped off. So, repeat after me. I will never have a dealer mount my tires again..." My local dealer started offering tyre replacement services a while back, and they were cheaper than all the chains. They only offered OE tyres, which was probably why they were cheaper. I've no doubt they farmed it out to another outfit - I never saw any tyre-fitting facilities in the shop. I wouldn't ever go to a BMW dealer for an alignment. Book time is 2.5 hours (or �280 in London), they couldn't figure out how to make their song-and-dance Beissbarth machine work when the car was fitted with AC Schnitzer suspension (BMW-approved parts) featuring a whopping 20 mm lower ride height, and when I asked for slightly less toe-in at the front I was told it was forbidden (by whom? The bloody European Commission?). Luckily this was the first time the dealer had ever used a customer's car on their new kit, and they only charged me a few quid for the extra half-hour of head-scratching required to deal with non-default suspension settings. Never going back, though. Andy T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 04:06:00 -0700 From: donna seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 Bumpers I believe it. After I'd had my 83 RX7 for a few years, I had to adjust my braking points with as little as 20 extra lbs in the car. Donna On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 09:20 AM, Dorffer, Rich wrote: >> plastic: front (7 pounds); rear (10 pounds) >> aluminum: 20-25 pounds each. >> basic guess is the aluminum is 2-3x heavier. >> significant enough to feel the difference when driving the car around >> the >> first time. > > You felt the removal of ~25 pounds from a ~2,800 car? Wow. So, you > can also tell how much gas is in the tank (within at least a 1/4 of a > tank) without looking at the fuel gauge? > > Regards, > > Rich - not nearly sensitive enough to small changes I make on my > cars.... > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 04:57:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 Bumpers This may have not been on my BMW 88'325ic, but on our 02' Volvo XC when I added the tow kit (weight 85lbs) it made a noticable difference in the way the car turned into corners and rode on the highway over the expansion joints. Jason - --- donna seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe it. After I'd had my 83 RX7 for a few > years, I had to adjust > my braking points with as little as 20 extra lbs in > the car. > > Donna ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 05:02:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Recent dealer experience This is what I was going to say with a little more tech added though.... A friend owns a tire dealer and the M cars wheels have been a PITA since the begining. In fact he does them himself (normally at the front desk) to save his paid labor the 2 hours time. Jason - --- KMS - Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd say, overall, you paid a little more than you > should have. Probably > should have been closer to $200. I don't think you > got ripped off though, > not by a long shot. > > Brett Anderson > KMS ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 05:18:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Fraud Warning - Ryan Harker Sue him....Simple as that....That will get his attention. Have an expert BMW shop write a swown statement for the judge that it is garbage and you should have no issues. I assume you have quite a paper trail to go with this testifing to the condition of the unit? Good luck. Jason - --- Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just an FYI, do not buy/sell items with a Ryan > Harker in Indianapolis. > > I purchased a used 3.15 ltd slip diff "in great > condition with 30K miles on > it" from him back in February, based on his ad on > Roadfly. The diff was > junk when I received it. Totally unusable. > > Repeated and lengthy requests for redress have gone > completely unanswered > and I'm out $650. I was willing to be reasonable > and work with him, under > the assumption that he truly didn't know the diff > was all crunchy inside. > No dice. > > Hopefully, I can save someone else the grief and > $$'s. Caveat Emptor. > > - Mark, finally burned by someone in the BMW > Community > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 11:26:57 -0400 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Driving School vs. Racing School - results > For fun? Racing school, hands down! Better yet, rally school..... > > vty, > > --Dennis Lee ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 11:36:23 -0400 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Was: GOD, I love my wife--now Unkie Kartlos's dream sugar m oma Carlos, Found her for ya! Yesterday, N Atlanta--really hot blonde in a black 996turbo. Screaming though rush hour traffic. I tried throwing your e-mail address through her window, but at 100+......who knows who's got your address now??? If you get an e-mail from a N. Georgia correctional facility, just say thanks for keeping the motorways clean......& that you'll prolly be taken in 2-4. I tried to get her attention for you, but she seemed to be ignoring me for some reason. Dunno, you think the fact that the center median has better paint than my old Saab would have anything to do with it? Lee->just lookin' out for old friends.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 10:24:57 -0700 From: Brad Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: "Renting a BMW in the SF Bay Area" Link I couldn't find the original link, but I did once rent an E36 convertible to test the trunk size before I did a Euro delivery of my former E36 M3C. You will pay for the privilege of driving "Blau Mit Weiss". Some sources: http://www.cityrentacar.com/ http://www.specialtyrentals.com Brad Houser > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan > Jackson Jr. > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] Re: "Renting a BMW in the SF Bay Area" Link > > > You or someone else has mentioned this link previously. I > could not find it before and I cannot find it now. If it is > so tantalizing, provide a direct url! > > Stan > > > > Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 23:40:04 -0700 > > From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: [uuc] GOD, I love my wife > > > > RE: [uuc] GOD, I love my wife: > > > > If you wouldn't mind a somewhat unknown quantity, you could > check out > > the > link on the 'Unofficial BMW Website' link for "Renting a BMW > in the SF Bay Area". Possibly not the type of rental the > site's creator intended, though we do know she at least has > an interest in BMWs. Not sure what it is she wants you to > rent however. lol. > > > > 'jk > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 11:39:31 -0700 (PDT) From: d seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: RE: [uuc] Re: "Renting a BMW in the SF Bay Area" Link Yikes! But not so bad if it's just for the high school or college reunion. :) http://www.cityrentacar.com/exotic-cars.html#exotic_cars http://www.specialtyrentals.com/reserv2.asp?opt=040 Donna Mustang convertible for HS reunion, didn't handle like my RX7 - -------Original Message------- From: Brad Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 08/09/03 10:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: "Renting a BMW in the SF Bay Area" Link > > I couldn't find the original link, but I did once rent an E36 convertible to test the trunk size before I did a Euro delivery of my former E36 M3C. You will pay for the privilege of driving "Blau Mit Weiss". Some sources: http://www.cityrentacar.com/ http://www.specialtyrentals.com Brad Houser > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan > Jackson Jr. > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] Re: "Renting a BMW in the SF Bay Area" Link > > > You or someone else has mentioned this link previously. I > could not find it before and I cannot find it now. If it is > so tantalizing, provide a direct url! > > Stan > > > > Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 23:40:04 -0700 > > From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: [uuc] GOD, I love my wife > > > > RE: [uuc] GOD, I love my wife: > > > > If you wouldn't mind a somewhat unknown quantity, you could > check out > > the > link on the 'Unofficial BMW Website' link for "Renting a BMW > in the SF Bay Area". Possibly not the type of rental the > site's creator intended, though we do know she at least has > an interest in BMWs. Not sure what it is she wants you to > rent however. lol. > > > > 'jk > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 11:45:09 -0700 From: Erick Baumeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Recent dealer experience Interesting non-BMW related experience: Last month I took my Subaru Forester to a new America's Tire Company store in town. I knew their inventory so when I walk in at 10:50 AM. I know what I want, ask the price and toss them the keys. While the desk guy and I finish the paperwork, his 3 shop guys are already dismounting tires. After the paperwork's done he goes out to help them balance. They had quite an assembly line going there. Care was taken at every step and torque sticks are followed by careful hand torqueing. I drove out of there at about 11:05 on new rubber feeling like I had my own personal pit crew. Except I was still driving the Forester. Erick Baumeister currently Bimmerless ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 14:43:26 -0500 From: "Ben White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: RE: [uuc] Re: "Renting a BMW in the SF Bay Area" Link Donna's Mustang sounds like a comparative bargain. The quoted rental rates seem to confirm earlier learned posts regarding depreciation of luxury and near-luxury vehicles, huh? Ben White/Ocean Springs, MS - ----- Original Message ----- From: "d seeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 1:39 PM <snip, snip> > http://www.cityrentacar.com/exotic-cars.html#exotic_cars > > http://www.specialtyrentals.com/reserv2.asp?opt=040 > > Donna ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 16:30:02 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: "Renting a BMW in the SF Bay Area" Link Thanks, Brad, but I don't think that the information you provided is the info that jkerouac was referring to, nor the pictures that Stan (and I) were hoping to find.... vty, - --Dennis - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brad Houser Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 1:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: "Renting a BMW in the SF Bay Area" Link I couldn't find the original link, but I did once rent an E36 convertible to test the trunk size before I did a Euro delivery of my former E36 M3C. You will pay for the privilege of driving "Blau Mit Weiss". Some sources: http://www.cityrentacar.com/ http://www.specialtyrentals.com Brad Houser > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan > Jackson Jr. > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] Re: "Renting a BMW in the SF Bay Area" Link > > > You or someone else has mentioned this link previously. I > could not find it before and I cannot find it now. If it is > so tantalizing, provide a direct url! > > Stan > > > > Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 23:40:04 -0700 > > From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: [uuc] GOD, I love my wife > > > > RE: [uuc] GOD, I love my wife: > > > > If you wouldn't mind a somewhat unknown quantity, you could > check out > > the > link on the 'Unofficial BMW Website' link for "Renting a BMW > in the SF Bay Area". Possibly not the type of rental the > site's creator intended, though we do know she at least has > an interest in BMWs. Not sure what it is she wants you to > rent however. lol. > > > > 'jk > > > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6647 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | |==================================================== | Turner Motorsport Inc . 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