[uucdigest] Sunday, August 31 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6716
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Re: [uuc] Aluminum M52 [uuc] Its //M3 Power Steering Hose Clamp Time [uuc] 2000 M5, back on ebay, no reserve ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 18:21:26 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: Someone hit my BMW! Advice sought... Well, I'm a little stunned. When I first posted on this topic, I praised Neil for most of the points he made in his post, but took some exception to one of them. I have since responded twice, very politely both times, and have just read a reply that leaves me a bit speechless. Well, I'll leave it mostly alone, and address only one thing that Neil stated. >Bottom line is if you think the car that you may buy is not repaired properly, then don't buy it. No one is forcing you. Diminished value is based upon the premise that a buyer will not pay as much for a car if it is known to have been in an accident. If the market were as selective as you make out, no damaged cars would ever be bought or sold, yet the majority of the cars on the road have been damaged and repaired. You'd probably wet yourself if you found out how many cars are damaged and repaired before they leave the factory or the dealer's showroom. Try to claim diminished value there. ________________ Neil, first, I very strongly doubt that a "majority" of the cars have been damaged and repaired. A significant percentage, to be sure, but more than 50%? No way. Second, never in my replies did I say that damaged and repaired cars are "never bought or sold" -- I was only making the point that damaged and repaired cars are WORTH LESS than the same car that hasn't been damaged and repaired. Third, sitting here after "wetting my pants," I can nevertheless state that I know that many cars are damaged and repaired before the first buyer takes delivery, and (a) if a buyer actually KNEW that his/her car had been damaged and repaired, and had the option to take exactly the same car that HADN'T been damaged and repaired, he/she would almost certainly take the untouched one; and (b) BMW lost a class action law suit by disgruntled buyers who wanted compensation for for diminished value for their "new" cars that had been damaged and repainted (BMW of N. Am., Inc. v. Gore, 517 U.S. 559, 116 S.Ct. 1589, 1593, 134 L.Ed.2d 809 (1996) ($4 million punitive damage verdict for failing to disclose that new car had been repainted by the manufacturer)). LASTLY -- speak up, UUC list members. Is there a SINGLE PERSON OUT HERE, *** JUST ONE *** (aside from "Neil"), who would voluntarily buy a damaged and (PERFECTLY) repaired car (either a major collision OR a tiny bit of damage) if you could buy the same exact but untouched car, for the same price? Please, please, speak up and tell us why. vty, - --Dennis [Private message to John H. - you're smarter than me, and I'm taking your advice now... :-) ] . ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 16:30:30 -0700 From: Bora Akyol (BMW) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Cooper S autocross impressions I had a chance to autocross my new Cooper S with Golden Gate chapter this weekend. Here are my impressions: Good stuff - ---------- 1) Car has lots of power, as in lots and lots of torque and power. 2) Suspension is very good. 3) There is some body roll but better than any stock suspension including my E36 M3 4) Electro-hydraulic steering works well 5) traction control stays off when you turn it off (what a concept) 6) Still no torque steer unless you turn the wheel full lock and hammer the throttle Bad stuff - --------- 1) The run-flat tires (Pirelli 205/45/17) are horrible, no grip until I lowered the pressures to low 30s. 2) Having an open diff is terrible in this car, the body leans, the inside tire unloads and you have absolutely no power. I drove the entire course on at most 3/4 throttle. The course was well designed but it had only one straight section and all high speed sweepers mixed with nice tight stuff. 3) Could use bigger bars front and rear. 4) Stock exhaust drones somewhat I think having stickier tires would have made a huge difference in terms of being able to get on the throttle but the car really really needs a limited-slip diff. I guess I am going to have to put in a quaife at some point. Bora ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:08:07 -0400 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Sanity Regained, It's Not Me, It's the Diff <longish> This diff sounds like it's out of an E30 318i. Easy way to check is count the bolts holding the side seal carrier in. 4 bolts=small, 6 bolts=medium. As long as it was from an 84 or 85 year model, it will bolt right into your car with no modifications. However, it is a smaller unit, it has smaller bearings, gears and clutches, so will not last as long as the correct medium diff will. If the diff is truly a 3.91, it came from an 84 automatic. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott & Charlotte > Miller > A few days ago I was questioning my sanity and mechanical skills > when I was > not able to install side seals in a used 3.91:1 LSD I bought off the > Internet for my 1990 325i. Now my sanity is restored, and my skills are, > um, less questionable. > Back home, I put the back of the car up on jack stands and slide > underneath > with the "new" diff and a tape measure. Sure enough, the two diffs are > different. (The similar designs had led me to believe that they were the > same, but now I know more. Oh well.) The rear covers are > different - on my > car, the back of the rear bushing is on the same plane with the > back of the > cover. On the replacement diff, the rear bushing sits about 1.5 inches to > the rear of the cover. The diff in my car is about 11.5 inches long, not > including the cover. The replacement is more like 10.5 inches long. If I > line up the rear bushings, the output shaft openings appear to be > in pretty > much the same place. But the input flange is not in the same place. > > I remember back when I bought the diff, I asked the seller what car it was > out of. He said it came from an E30 325is. I was guessing that it must > have been an automatic, as the 3.91:1 ratio was used with some E30 > automatics. Now I wonder if the guy just told me what I wanted to hear? > Too bad so much time has passed since I bought it, I'm sure I'm stuck with > the thing. > > So at this point, my only question (and probably Brett is the only one who > will be able to answer, or is certainly the most qualified of the various > list members) is: Is there some combination of parts that will allow this > diff to work properly in my car, or am I SOL? Like, would it require a > different or modified drive shaft? Will this thing even bolt to my > subframe? > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 21:56:11 -0500 From: "dlejune" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Is it normal for a 2000M5 with 32k miles... to use 1qt of that horridly expensive synthetic oil every 2000 miles?? Damn! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 00:29:07 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Is it normal for a 2000M5 with 32k miles... More or less... there was a technical update for 3/00 and newer build M5s that revised some internal parts (piston rings, as I recall) to reduce the oil consumption. It's not necessarily an indication of something wrong, and the update was done simply to alleviate customer annoyance. To deal with this, pre-3/00 cars are specified by BMW to use the Castrol RS 10W60, specially formulated for the M5. BMW seems to be adamant that only this oil should be used. - - Rob - ---- Original Message ---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [uuc] Is it normal for a 2000M5 with 32k miles... >to use 1qt of that horridly expensive synthetic oil every 2000 miles? >Damn! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:47:46 -0700 From: Bora Akyol (BMW) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Is it normal for a 2000M5 with 32k miles... I think this is what I heard from other M5/M3 owners as well, but don't feel bad, my colleagues 02 C4S also goes through a quart every couple thousand miles. My car goes through a quart every 40 miles, but only when racing :-) Bora 89 M3 #236 JP On Saturday, Aug 30, 2003, at 19:56 US/Pacific, dlejune wrote: > to use 1qt of that horridly expensive synthetic oil every 2000 miles?? > Damn! > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:04:05 +0000 From: "Gilbert Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Aluminum M52 A few wrote: >Only a few of the M52 are "made of aluminium" and those are mostly Z3 >engines, the rest are iron blocks. So only a few M52s are aluminum? So I guess BMW made only a few E46s in model years '99/'00? The M52tu in early US E46 were aluminum block. During the same time I would presume the Z3s also had the aluminum block M52 as well as the M52 equipped E39. Gilbert 1999 328i with aluminum block M52tu b28. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:14:35 -0700 From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Its //M3 Power Steering Hose Clamp Time Thanks to these lists I've learned there is a congenital defect in the power steering hose clamps on the E36 which begins at ~75k miles. At 88k miles, yesterday I heard the whine of a dry ps pump. A matching drip stain on the garage floor. If you wonder why I didn't catch this drip sooner, its been a while since I got to see the garage floor under where the car goes since the car is always parked there. :-) Where exactly are the clamps I need to replace? How many are there total? Do I cut the hoses, effectively making them shorter, and reclamp them at the new end? Or can I remove the crimped on factory clamps and clamp over the exisitng hose material? What size are the clamps I need? Just to be sure, these are standard hose clamps, right? Please email directly as well as posting to the digest. Jack won't be allowed back On The Road until he's all mended. TIA, 'jk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:32:57 -0400 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] 2000 M5, back on ebay, no reserve http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6131&item=2429721506 It's up again guys. The last high bidder changed his mind, without ever seeing the car.... Decided to buy a tank, umm, motorcycle instead. No reserve. High bidder takes it home. My bet is that it will sell for under $41K, given the response it got last time. 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