[uucdigest] Friday, September 5 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6727
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[uuc] re: Toe in and Pyrometers/ Was Kumho, groove of death: Re: [uuc] Re: <E36> rear ride height [uuc] Spring question [uuc] Re: gas fill location [uuc] [E36M3] Following up with trouble with spark plugs [uuc] re: BMW gas fill location Re: [uuc] [E36M3] Following up with trouble with spark plugs RE: [uuc] [E36M3] Following up with trouble with spark plugs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 09:39:54 -0700 From: Kurt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] re: BMW gas fill location You can't fill your own tank in NJ either? I thought Oregon was the only state that manufactured jobs in this way... - -Kurt Rob Levinson wrote: >I didn't say it was the primary motivation... at the very least, a >happy side effect. > >In NJ, I get to watch the gas monkey wipe off my paint with the >oil-checking rag he picks up off the sandy concrete. No wonder our >population keeps expanding with all the new residents moving in! > >- Rob > > > >>---- Original Message ---- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >>>Maybe, but BMWs have had right side fillers dating back the 1600, if >>> >>> >>not >> >> >>>earlier. And back then it had much less to do with marketing and >>> >>> >>more to >> >> >>>do with engineering and safety and other non-marketing stuff. >>> >>>Scott Miller >>>GGC BMW CCA >>> >>> >>> >>>>Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 22:05:01 -0400 >>>>From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>Subject: RE: [uuc] re: BMW gas fill location >>>> >>>>Call it a silly idea, but I would not be surprised if there is a >>>>maerketing component to the whole thing... make the side of the car >>>>that the driver sees look nicer without the interruption of the >>>> >>>> >>fuel >> >> >>>>filler door. >>>> >>>> > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:25:48 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Question about LSD Diffs.. I don't have it. Perhaps the TIS has some specs. Gary Derian > So there is some chart somewhere that tells us what the slip torque should > be using that test? Please do share! > > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA > > >Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 20:28:17 -0400 > >From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [uuc] Question about LSD Diffs.. > > > >A Quaife, Torson, or gerotor will appear to be an open diff with that > test. > >A conventional clutch type limited slip will not. Jack up one rear tire, > >leave the trans in neutral and measure the torque to slip the diff > clutches. > > > >Gary Derian > > > >> > > >> >Jack up the rear end (both wheels off the ground) and rotate one of the > >> >wheels, if the other one turns in the same direction you have LSD, if > it > >> >turns the opposite direction you don't. > >> > > >> >Regards > >> > > >> >Jamie Howton > >> >2002 330i (No LSD and it's a damn shame) > >> >1995 M3 (LSD) > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:28:29 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] S62 intake air temp sensor relocator? Seems like a lot of money for two wires and connectors. Gary Derian > http://www.ufmotorsport.com/iatsrelocation.htm > > I came across this yesterday, and thought I would poll the collective wisdom > of the digest. > > It does seem that my M5 suffers more from the heat than have other cars I've > owned, and given that I live in Houston, this modifation has certainly > piqued my interest. > > My understanding is that the stock intake air temp sensor is integrated with > the driver's side MAF. > Anyone have any thoughts about this product? Would it be safe, and can > anyone think of a downside? > > TIA, > > Scott Staewen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 10:27:13 -0700 From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] re: Toe in and Pyrometers/ Was Kumho, groove of death: re: Kumho, groove of death: How much toe are the drivers having premature wearout using? The focus thus far has been about camber only. Haven't tried Kumhos, but from past experience with the old BFG and Yokohama prone to uneven wear, toe can make a difference. If you are autocrossing with street toe in settings, try taking one turn of toe outward before the event. Your lap times might (probably will) be quicker, too. If you can get to a reliable alignment rack run by a skilled operator (had mine set at Dinan's), have them paint index stripes on the tie rods for an autocross alignment of .06 total toe out. Then set your street toe (.06 toe in has been good for the BMWs I've set up) and paint index stripes at that position. The midway point will be zero toe. General toe guide for autocross: (ymmv) Add toe out for more abrasive or concrete road surfaces and slower/tighter courses where less lean and weight transfer will be obtainable. Faster courses, hotter track temperatures, asphalt need less toe. If you really want to know what's going on with your tires, eliminate the guesswork by using a pyrometer. A pyrometer is less expensive than the cost of a set of ruined tires. Yes I know, this is a sticky subject. [groan], 'jk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:25:17 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: <E36> rear ride height No, they are designed to counteract the banking in the karussell at the Nuerburgring. Gary Derian > Kevin, I seem to recall that BMW designs their cars so that they will be > level when travelling down a crowned road. Last night I noticed that our > "new" '91 325iA is slightly lower on the left. I'm not about to panic. > Also, I assume that UK cars are built the opposite way, or else they'll > always look like they're about to tip over on a crowned road. > > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA > > >Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:55:55 -0500 (CDT) > >From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [uuc] <E36> rear ride height > > > >I've been looking at my car lately believing the left (US driver's side) > was > >sagging a bit in the back. Sure enough... just measured it, left side is > >abount a cm lower. These springs (H&R) are less than two years old (no > track > >time)... should I expect this? Seems like a lot to me. > > > >- - Kevin Jay > > '96 328is, usual H&R/Bilstein setup > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:57:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Mr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Spring question What do you all think of RD Sport springs?? Would they be a good combo w/Bilstien sports? Firm or softer than HR Sports? Thanks! Manuel Paredes 95 325i sport pack. L.A. BMWCCA __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:59:07 -0700 From: "T WALROD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: gas fill location Re: safety and aesthetics - hows about the '56 Chevy 210 wagon's fuel port hidden behind the driver's side taillight? Some decades ago I recall doing laps around cars looking for gas caps cunningly hidden behind license plates, under the hood .. . Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:30:01 -0400 From: "Andrew E. Skopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] [E36M3] Following up with trouble with spark plugs Earlier this week, I wrote to the list about my spark plug troubles and the car having no power. Well, the answer is....stripped threads in the cylinders. The car is a CPO car at the dealership now. They were going to rethread the affected cylinders with some fancy drilling/boring machine, but BMW technical, whom they called, said that this would likely lead to a bad outcome. So, they are pulling the head to investigate further about the cause. Of course, I brought up the issue of who's paying for this. Right now, the dealership is taking the position of "it depends." They are saying that a readout of the car indicates that it was overrevved. I don't know what triggers this, but I know that I did not have any misshifts. I do have JimC software, bumping up the limiter. I don't recall hitting the limiter but it's possible. Would this trip the overrev circuit memory? Their investigation is going to focus on the condition of the valves and the cylinders in determining whether there was an overrev. Any thoughts on all of this would be appreciated. Andrew E. Skopp 98 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:30:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Erik Rutberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] re: BMW gas fill location Not all of BMWs gas fillers are on the passenger side. My 1985 735i has the fuel door on the driver side, and the early e12 530i had the door next the the rear license plate. Erik Rutberg 2003 MINI Cooper S 2001 Z3 roadster 3.0 2001 740iL 1997 318ti/Dinan3, supercharged 1988 ///M5 1985 735iA 1973 2002 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:59:56 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] [E36M3] Following up with trouble with spark plugs Over revviing will not cause spark plugs to strip. If that is the problem, then they cannot blame you. Who put the plugs in and how long have they been there? Gary Derian > Earlier this week, I wrote to the list about my spark plug troubles and the car having no power. Well, the answer is....stripped threads in the cylinders. > > The car is a CPO car at the dealership now. They were going to rethread the affected cylinders with some fancy drilling/boring machine, but BMW technical, whom they called, said that this would likely lead to a bad outcome. So, they are pulling the head to investigate further about the cause. > > Of course, I brought up the issue of who's paying for this. Right now, the dealership is taking the position of "it depends." They are saying that a readout of the car indicates that it was overrevved. I don't know what triggers this, but I know that I did not have any misshifts. I do have JimC software, bumping up the limiter. I don't recall hitting the limiter but it's possible. Would this trip the overrev circuit memory? Their investigation is going to focus on the condition of the valves and the cylinders in determining whether there was an overrev. Any thoughts on all of this would be appreciated. > > Andrew E. Skopp > 98 M3 > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:16:41 -0400 From: "Andrew E. Skopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] [E36M3] Following up with trouble with spark plugs Plugs were put in by another dealership about two and half, three years ago (40,000 miles); hence my decision to replace the plugs. Andrew E. Skopp Gallagher Evelius & Jones LLP 218 North Charles Street, 4th Floor Baltimore, Maryland 21201 Telephone: (410) 347-1365 Facsimile: (410) 468-2786 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email message is ATTORNEY PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended ONLY for the use of the individual or entity named herein. If you are not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by telephone at (410)727-7702 and return the original message by reply email. Thank you for your cooperation. - -----Original Message----- From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] [E36M3] Following up with trouble with spark plugs Over revviing will not cause spark plugs to strip. If that is the problem, then they cannot blame you. Who put the plugs in and how long have they been there? Gary Derian > Earlier this week, I wrote to the list about my spark plug troubles and the car having no power. Well, the answer is....stripped threads in the cylinders. > > The car is a CPO car at the dealership now. They were going to rethread the affected cylinders with some fancy drilling/boring machine, but BMW technical, whom they called, said that this would likely lead to a bad outcome. So, they are pulling the head to investigate further about the cause. > > Of course, I brought up the issue of who's paying for this. Right now, the dealership is taking the position of "it depends." They are saying that a readout of the car indicates that it was overrevved. I don't know what triggers this, but I know that I did not have any misshifts. I do have JimC software, bumping up the limiter. I don't recall hitting the limiter but it's possible. Would this trip the overrev circuit memory? Their investigation is going to focus on the condition of the valves and the cylinders in determining whether there was an overrev. Any thoughts on all of this would be appreciated. > > Andrew E. Skopp > 98 M3 > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6727 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | |==================================================== | Turner Motorsport Inc . 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