[uucdigest] Sunday, September 7 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6729
_________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.bmwdatabase.com | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Re: Unsubscribe RE: [uuc] BMW gas fill location [uuc] apologies for duplicate posting [uuc] Gas fillers and exhaust exit (L or R) RE: [uuc] Gas fillers and exhaust exit (L or R) [uuc] NEEDED - Pilot Sport 245/40/17 - ASAP [uuc] Re: <E36> rear ride height RE: [uuc] [E30] Clutch questions Re: [uuc] re: BMW gas fill location [uuc] Rocky Mountain Chapter fall driving events [uuc] <OT> UUGarage Yahoo Group RE: [uuc] <OT> UUGarage Yahoo Group RE: [uuc] <OT> UUGarage Yahoo Group ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:16:27 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: Unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:31:49 -0700 From: "Kim Melby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] BMW gas fill location (Mysteriously delurking) I've always wondered about the gas filler location. Except for early Integras, all single exhaust cars I've seen have the filler door on the opposite side (unless, of course, it's in the center). Does some country, obviously not the U.S. - maybe Canada? - mandate this. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:52:04 -0700 From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] apologies for duplicate posting my last posting went through twice, this was not intentional, sorry for the inconvenience. Barry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 06:43:38 +0000 From: "Gregory Bradbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Gas fillers and exhaust exit (L or R) To add to the dialogue, As a general rule of thumb, automotive designers TEND to base the location of the gas filler and (also) exhaust exist on their "home market" configuration, i.e. LHD or RHD. This also states one of my rather brilliant colleages with a PhD from the Lausanne Polytechnic School (Switzerland has two, Einstein went to the one in Zurich). In driving from Munster back from Geneva last weekend, we looked most every car going past. We had time as we were towing a trailer, which limits your speed by to 80 km-hr (it's the law across Europe except France), with a BMW 700 boxer powered gen set (another long story). Most of the LHD "home land designed" cars (European mostly) had a gas filler on the right side (passenger) and exhaust exit on the left. Most of the RHD "home land designed" cars (Japanese and British cars) were the opposite (filler left, exhaust right). In the LHD world, you want room to open your door, so you put the right side of the car next to the pump -- hence why you might want the filler on the right side of the car. The reason that the exhaust exits on the same side as the driver is to direct exhaust gas flow in the middle of the street, as opposed to being "pushed" towards the sidewalk. Yes, you will find exceptions (Mercedes ML exhaust, BMW 2002, pre-77 E12) but this is the general rule. Think of what you drive, own, have owned, etc. and this applies 95% of the time. I would expect Big Three cars to be the same, the only one I ever owned DID follow this rule. Gas fillers behind the rear license plate are "perhaps" the ultimate universal solution. Greg in Geneva _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 08:45:22 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Gas fillers and exhaust exit (L or R) Greg wrote: <snip> >In the LHD world, you want room to open your door, so you put the right side of the car next to the pump -- hence why you might want the filler on the right side of the car. The reason that the exhaust exits on the same side as the driver is to direct exhaust gas flow in the middle of the street, as opposed to being "pushed" towards the sidewalk. _______________ Thanks Greg - this is the most reasonable theory I've heard yet! vty, - --Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 07:21:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] NEEDED - Pilot Sport 245/40/17 - ASAP - --0-1230937103-1062858111=:28230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gang, Anyone have a single Pilot Sport in 245/40/17 (for a staggered M3 rear) that they want to sell? If so, please e-mail me ASAP. Would also consider pair if price is right. Need reasonable tread, but full is not necessary. Thanks, Neil - --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software - --0-1230937103-1062858111=:28230 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <DIV>Gang,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyone have a single Pilot Sport in 245/40/17 (for a staggered M3 rear) that they want to sell? If so, please e-mail me ASAP. Would also consider pair if price is right. Need reasonable tread, but full is not necessary.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Neil</DIV><p><hr SIZE=1> Do you Yahoo!?<br> <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=10469/*http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com";>Yahoo! SiteBuilder</a> - Free, easy-to-use web site design software - --0-1230937103-1062858111=:28230-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 09:50:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: <E36> rear ride height I always thought (and seem to recall) the driver's side of my car as being higher (presumably to account for the weight of the driver?). But the ride height specs in Bently don't mention this, so perhaps it's a myth? On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Kevin, I seem to recall that BMW designs their cars so that they will be > level when travelling down a crowned road. Last night I noticed that our > "new" '91 325iA is slightly lower on the left. I'm not about to panic. > Also, I assume that UK cars are built the opposite way, or else they'll > always look like they're about to tip over on a crowned road. > > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA > > >Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:55:55 -0500 (CDT) > >From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [uuc] <E36> rear ride height > > > >I've been looking at my car lately believing the left (US driver's side) > was > >sagging a bit in the back. Sure enough... just measured it, left side is > >abount a cm lower. These springs (H&R) are less than two years old (no > track > >time)... should I expect this? Seems like a lot to me. > > > >- - Kevin Jay > > '96 328is, usual H&R/Bilstein setup > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 12:12:17 -0400 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] [E30] Clutch questions Get the flywheel and clutch assembly from a pre 5/86 325e or pre 12/86 325i. It's a lighter, single mass unit. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christian Els > I'm getting ready to buy a new clutch for my car and I have a few > questions about fitments. > I have an 88 325 (super Eta) and it appears I have the same dual-mass > flywheel and clutch as the late 325e, 528e and E36 325i, but a different > flywheel and clutch than an E30 325i. > Can I use an E30 325i clutch if I also repace the flywheel? Or are there > physical restraints (size, bolt pattern) that mandate a different > assembly? > Anybody had luck with their home-towm machine shop lightening and > balancing > their flywheel? I'm guessing the dual-mass part makes this > trickier but I'll > know better after I pull it off the car. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 15:49:15 -0400 From: "Dean Boucouras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] re: BMW gas fill location Maybe BMW (and others) put the gas fill on the passenger side so it won't be damaged if the car is side swiped by opposing traffic. Dean ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 16:28:38 -0600 From: "Bob Sutterfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Rocky Mountain Chapter fall driving events Registration is open for the September 27 autocross at Coors Field, and for the October 25 driving school at Pueblo Motorsport Park. You will be able to register after the 9/27 event for the October 19 autocross at Bandimere. Also don't forget the Red Dolly casino night September 13, and the fall drive (scenic mountain tour) September 20. The driving school will fill up quickly, it's a one-day event with limited slots available. Visit the Chapter's web page <http://www.rmcbmwcca.org> to register now! - -- Bob Sutterfield '87 E30 325iS http://bmwe30.net #1129 DAS KAR '88 E28 535iS http://m535i.org #154 IHR FUNF '93 T4 EV MV Weekender BELUGA BMWCCA #169277 Rocky Mountain Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 18:52:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Brush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <OT> UUGarage Yahoo Group Anybody else having trouble gettting on the UUGarage site? I read messages on the web, can get to the Group site as usual but there are no messages there. All my other Yahoo Groups show messages as usual. Thanks, Jon <--going through Garage withdrawal. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 22:05:26 -0400 From: "Bill Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <OT> UUGarage Yahoo Group Jon, Because of some problems with an unknown lurker on the garage. All Archives have been purged and the garage is set to no archive. If you aren't in digest or real time e-mail mode you can't get it. And if your Yahoo profile doesn't give some indication of who you really are you will be purged out next week. Quote from herr garagefuehrer =8^0 <quote> Hi All, Effective today, The UUC Garage will no longer be archived. That means, you cannot read from the internet, nor go back and retrieve old messages. The only people who will be able to get and receive postings will have their preferences set to INDIVIDUAL MESSAGES or DIGEST MODE. If you can only read from the internet, then I suggest you set up a Yahoo mail account and read your mail from Yahoo. Also, effective Wednesday Sept 10th, lurkers will be tossed off the list. All mail lists benefit from a give and take from the members. Those that only take and don't contribute have no place here. If you don't post, don't ever contribute, then bye-bye. And finally, you need an identifier on your YAHOO profile (i.e., name, etc.) that lets me - and Brad - as list owners be able to somehow identify who you are. It can be a first name, last initial, or your full name, or something that tells us who's on the list. And we're not that clever in figuring things out so make it something that works and isn't too cute or risk getting the big DELETE box checked next to your name. Sept. 10th is the deadline for putting an identifier on your account. When I started this list in 1999, I had a vision that everyone was welcome, and we were open to all. This will no longer work. There is a person, (or persons), on this list that are causing harm. Trouble is, I can't identify them. So the <above> seemingly Draconian measures will limit access to our list, and tell everyone exactly who is on the list. I will not go into details other than to say the list is going to be culled. The dead wood is going out, and there is no longer going to be a historical record of the posts. I expect our group will be halved in member count pretty shortly. This is Homeland Security - Garage Style. Duane Collie List Owner P.S. I'd strongly suggest to all that what is posted on this list, STAYS on this list, unless you have permission from the person who created the messages to relay it elsewhere. </quote> > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jonathan Brush > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] <OT> UUGarage Yahoo Group > > > Anybody else having trouble gettting on the UUGarage > site? I read messages on the web, can get to the Group > site as usual but there are no messages there. All my > other Yahoo Groups show messages as usual. > > Thanks, > Jon <--going through Garage withdrawal. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 07:26:23 -0400 From: "Jack Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <OT> UUGarage Yahoo Group I am a lurker. I'm new to BMWs, and do not have the extensive expertise of many members here. I have contributed occasionally, when I thought I had something worthwhile to say, or had a question that I thought would be of general interest. I regret that this valuable resource will no longer be available to me and others in the same situation. We cause no harm, waste no bandwidth, and gain from the information discussed. Maybe some day as we gain experience in things BMW, we would have been able to contribute more. I guess not. Thanks, Jack Rutherford Also, effective Wednesday Sept 10th, lurkers will be tossed off the list. All mail lists benefit from a give and take from the members. Those that only take and don't contribute have no place here. If you don't post, don't ever contribute, then bye-bye. ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6729 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | |==================================================== | Turner Motorsport Inc . The Ultra-High Performance BMW Specialist | 207 Elm Street, Amesbury, MA 01950 | 978-388-7769 / fax 978-388-4202 | http://www.turnermotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning | and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! | 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com |__________________________________________________________
