[uucdigest] Saturday, September 27 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6782
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[uuc] First time with Redline MTL Re: [uuc] M roadster wheel question RE: [uuc] PARTS WANTED: CLUTCH FOR 1991 M5 Re: [uuc] M roadster wheel question Re: [uuc] Now that we're in the diff...was re: opening up the diff case Re: [uuc] PARTS WANTED: CLUTCH FOR 1991 M5 RE: [uuc] PARTS WANTED: CLUTCH FOR 1991 M5 Re: [uuc] PARTS WANTED: CLUTCH FOR 1991 M5 Re: [uuc] PARTS WANTED: CLUTCH FOR 1991 M5 [uuc] Hot Track Days re: Subject: [uuc] Info on towing? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:46:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Info on towing? - --0-170524557-1064598373=:55349 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Towing a manual transmission car is no problem. The reason to disconnect the drive shaft in the older automatic transmission cars was the fact that the shaft would turn the rear portion of the tranny while the front portion (with the pump) was not turning, thus the fluid would overheat because it wasn't circulating. Just put the front wheels up on the dolly, make sure the parking brake is off, put it in neutral and tow away. The one caveat of using a tow dolly, don't even think of trying to back it up, it's a real bear and chances are you'll have a jackknife situation. Just be sure to pull in so you can drive straight out. Dave Nichols - --0-170524557-1064598373=:55349 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <DIV>Towing a manual transmission car is no problem. The reason to disconnect the drive shaft in the older automatic transmission cars was the fact that the shaft would turn the rear portion of the tranny while the front portion (with the pump) was not turning, thus the fluid would overheat because it wasn't circulating.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just put the front wheels up on the dolly, make sure the parking brake is off, put it in neutral and tow away. The one caveat of using a tow dolly, don't even think of trying to back it up, it's a real bear and chances are you'll have a jackknife situation. Just be sure to pull in so you can drive straight out.</DIV><BR><BR>Dave Nichols - --0-170524557-1064598373=:55349-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:51:10 -0700 From: Kit Wetzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] PARTS WANTED: CLUTCH FOR 1991 M5 > http://www.buyclutch.com/ > Highly recommended. prices afaik can't be beat. I'd highly recommend staying as far away from these guys as possible. Pacific BMW has the M5 clutch kit in stock for $280. I just did a group buy on the UUC flywheels and some of the people that bought from me ordered from Buyclutch.com in April/May and STILL haven't received their clutches. It's only $40 difference. -kit ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 11:09:16 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: Info on towing? Yes, a dolly can be used. And you really should disconnect the driveshaft. The owner's manual should tell you the towing limitations (speed, distance) with the DS still attached. Or you could just drive the car? Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:25:46 -0700 (PDT) >From: Randall Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] Info on towing? > >I need to tow my son's '90 525i - 5 speed about 300 >miles this weekend. Can a dolly be used and if so, do >I need to disconnect the driveshaft? > >Randy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:15:03 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] First time with Redline MTL "Dave Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I had put Mobil One ATF in my 98 M3 5-speed in the spring. Since >> then, every time my transmission gets hot on the track, I have trouble >> shifting into first or reverse and have to double shift. Alex F wrote > > That's weird. > I had gone from stock BMW liquid to MTL to D4ATF and now to Mobile 1 ATF. > Could hardly tell the four of them apart. MTL rattled a little more than > other after hot laps, but that's about it. And those were summer hot laps > in Texas on the thinner MTL. > Dave, I can't imagine a non-racing scenario where you would cook D4 ATF. > Are you sure you don't have something else going on? Not exactly Alex, MTL isn't thinner than D4ATF and I highly doubt MTL would be thinner than Mobil 1 ATF. Compared to motor oil, these are the respective weights and viscosities at two different temps of Red Line tranny oil: D4ATF - 0W20 - 34.0 centistokes at 40C & 7.5 centistokes at 100C MTL - 5W30 - 50.8 centistokes at 40C & 10.2 centistokes at 100C MT90 - 15W40 - 89.2 centistokes at 40C & 14.7 centistokes at 100C (per Dave at RedLine Oil) MTL isn't thinner than D4ATF but is thinner than MT90. "Dave Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I know that the Redline ATF is a possibility too, but since it is so > damn hot on the track down here in the South and never gets too cold, > I'm going with James Clay's recommendation of the MT-90. And if I > am in fact, having some problems with the synchros, then the thicker > fluid should help some too! This car doesn't see too much street time > anyway! See above. MT90 will make shifting more difficult in colder temps but would provide more protection against break down at higher temps. All three are synthetic obviously so all three provide very good protection against thermal break down. I am not sure what temps are seen on the track in the tranny though. Best regards, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:03:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] M roadster wheel question I believe the E46 M3 wheels would fit the M roadster. Sorry no comments on wheel upgrades. Mike - --- Joe Holley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know if recent (last couple of year > model) 18 or 19 inch M# > wheels will fit a 1999 M roadster? Comments on > wheel upgrades from anybody? > Thanks, Joe > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:10:26 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] PARTS WANTED: CLUTCH FOR 1991 M5 Funny. Never had a problem with them. Plus customer service was great. Oh well. Marco - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kit Wetzler Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 10:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] PARTS WANTED: CLUTCH FOR 1991 M5 > http://www.buyclutch.com/ > Highly recommended. prices afaik can't be beat. I'd highly recommend staying as far away from these guys as possible. Pacific BMW has the M5 clutch kit in stock for $280. I just did a group buy on the UUC flywheels and some of the people that bought from me ordered from Buyclutch.com in April/May and STILL haven't received their clutches. It's only $40 difference. -kit ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:09:38 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] M roadster wheel question The rear wheels on the M Roadster have a bizarre offset, like 9mm. Fronts should fit fine. You will need very thick spacers, 30 or 35mm to fit M3 wheels on the back. Gary Derian > I believe the E46 M3 wheels would fit the M roadster. > Sorry no comments on wheel upgrades. > > Mike > > --- Joe Holley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone know if recent (last couple of year > > model) 18 or 19 inch M# > > wheels will fit a 1999 M roadster? Comments on > > wheel upgrades from anybody? > > Thanks, Joe > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:41:24 -0400 From: "Robert G. Conway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Now that we're in the diff...was re: opening up the diff case Re: Need source for M8x1.0x16 / Gr 10.9 bolts Gary, I've tried all the usual sources, including McM. What's unusual is the 10.9 grade in fine (1.0) pitch. The low profile head isn't the problem, in fact I'd rather have a full depth head or even a hex head. I may have missed some sources, any help appreciated. Thanks. Bob '99 M3 Coupe '97 M3 Coupe '92 325is '89 325i (Track) '88 325is (Track) '88 325is (R&T) '89 Suburban ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:52:18 -0400 From: "Eurowerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] PARTS WANTED: CLUTCH FOR 1991 M5 What kind of clutch components are they selling at this price? Are they equivalent to O.E. or better? Kirk A. Gilchrist EURO-WERKS / Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 859-745-0125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 888-522-0271 toll free ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:20:24 -0700 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] PARTS WANTED: CLUTCH FOR 1991 M5 Sachs. Marco - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eurowerks Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] PARTS WANTED: CLUTCH FOR 1991 M5 What kind of clutch components are they selling at this price? Are they equivalent to O.E. or better? Kirk A. Gilchrist EURO-WERKS / Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 859-745-0125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 888-522-0271 toll free ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:49:34 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] PARTS WANTED: CLUTCH FOR 1991 M5 Pacific has several loss leaders- this is likely one of them I don't think ANYONE can beat 280 for the kit for an OEM Sachs. Can anyone even come close? Not me. Jon - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eurowerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [uuc] PARTS WANTED: CLUTCH FOR 1991 M5 > What kind of clutch components are they selling at this price? Are they > equivalent to O.E. or better? > > Kirk A. Gilchrist > EURO-WERKS / Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair > 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 859-745-0125 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 888-522-0271 toll free > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:41:36 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] PARTS WANTED: CLUTCH FOR 1991 M5 Give me a couple of their names and I'll follow up for them. Ed Kit Wetzler wrote: >> http://www.buyclutch.com/ Highly recommended. prices afaik can't be >> beat. > > > I'd highly recommend staying as far away from these guys as possible. > Pacific BMW has the M5 clutch kit in stock for $280. I just did a > group buy on the UUC flywheels and some of the people that bought from > me ordered from Buyclutch.com in April/May and STILL haven't received > their clutches. > > It's only $40 difference. > > -kit > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:45:28 -0700 From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Hot Track Days The other Kevin Kelly wrote: >Calif. tracks (the ones we run the most) are of >course in the middle of nowhere and have an >average temperature equal to the surface of the >sun. We are lucky to get a temperature under >100 degrees in the summer. Laguna Seca is usually the "coolest" of the N. California tracks and we were surprised to have the temp. near 100 degrees on Monday (the first day of fall) when I was down there doing a corporate racing school event. It was my first time in an open wheel "car" (as opposed to an open wheel go-cart). The weather should be nice this weekend at Infineon (the race track formerly known as Sears Point). I'll be up there watching a friend race his vintage Formula Ford (a light Blue Titan #92). The rest of the racing this weekend will be other vintage cars. Kevin Kelly BMW CCA 50039 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:21:08 -0700 From: jkerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: re: Subject: [uuc] Info on towing? re: Subject: [uuc] Info on towing?: Are you refering to using a wheel lift under the front wheels and a dolly under the rears? However if you have ever seen a BMW towed this way, you would be petrified to be anywhere within three lanes and 100 yards of such a rig. Do it right, with a flat bed. On the flat bed, either have the car chained in an X pattern with T hooks to the original factory tie down points, or with ratcheting tie down straps fastened to each wheel. From what I've seen, strapping the wheels, and keeping tension on the towing ring screwed into the front bumper, is the most stable setup. Also, if you tow it yourself and something goes wrong, you are SOL. If its a licensed tow operator, at least you're covered. Jack had one rear lower trailing arm replaced at the expense of a AAA tow shop because the operator put a J hook on it and started to tighten down before I caught him. These arms bend like butter if pulled on. Ymmv, 'jk ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6782 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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