Hi :) The difference is that 1. those other things basically work 2. people are working on them 3. new people are attracted to work on them
In complete contrast Base apparently has 1. NO-ONE working on it 2. It doesn't work 3. It's horribly complicated Base is the only app that almost every question can only be solved by getting stuck into coding or extensively trouble-shooting and regression-testing dependencies. Problems in other apps tend to be able to be solved by normal office users that may have no programming skills at all. It seems that we have 3 possible routes 1. Ignore the problems and watch as Base continues to crumble away and lie to new users that we have a database program when we really don't. 2. Drop Base and be honest that we don't have an integrated database program. 3. Step-up and manage. Regards from Tom :) ________________________________ From: Michael Meeks <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 1 August, 2011 12:54:23 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 19:26 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: > I think most of the companies i mentioned already employ devs to work on > projects relevant to those organisations. If they could each give one person > half a week to Base Sure - but if they could each give one person have a week to: improving the UI, accelerating import, fixing most annoying bugs, creating unit tests, ... < insert any number of potential problems > - then we could also make progress. However - instead of this, we have people complaining and trying to tell other people what to do :-) That actually kills developer time, because they have to respond to the griping by pointing out the obvious lack of resources, the way that reality is shaped - and asking people to be more constructive with their time - by actually getting involved fixing things. > If some of those companies had direct control over half a dev So - if some individuals, who have direct control over their own work schedule, could sit down and contribute then we'd get a long way too :-) right ? > I don't think TDF can afford to wait until people get annoyed enough (as RMS > suggests) because it's easier for people to just stay with other products and > the rest of the Suite they come with. A little work and leadership in taking > Base forwards might even attract a lot of volunteers to it instead or runing >for > > the hills. So - go for it ! you want to win eternal fame & glory, and find yourself a well paid job hacking base: sign up now - get experienced with the code, improve it, make noise about your success. Failing that - your resourcing concerns belong on a single list: the discuss list. > Most of the co-operatives i have worked in have paid consultants, part-time > workers, accountants, lawyers and all the rest when and where needed. > Many of the ones that refused to do so folded or got absorbed. Fine - so start a co-operative to work on LibreOffice, and fund these guys to do the work you want to tell them to do, and to meet your particular priorities. Failing that, do some fund raising yourself to get an existing bespoke development company (say Lanedo) to do the work for you. All the best, Michael. -- [email protected] <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
