Hi Paolo, all, no objections. I'd Prüfer that too. But we should make developer life mouch more easy and also implement tools like the workflows available on github.
Regards, Andreas Am 24. Juni 2022 12:37:54 MESZ schrieb Paolo Vecchi <[email protected]>: >Hi Andreas, > >it's great to see this types of cooperation offers. > >I might be biased but I would prefer to see the project on TDF's >infrastructure and covered by the appropriate agreements so that we can ensure >we invest on a project that will clearly provide long term benefits for the >wider community. > >Ciao > >Paolo > >On 24/06/2022 12:23, Andreas Mantke wrote: >> Hi Paolo, Franklin, all, >> >> it would be great, if we could work together on a process to merge both >> branches together and get the community versions in sync. I think this could >> be done most easy on Github. >> >> Regards, >> Andreas >> >> Am 24. Juni 2022 11:29:16 MESZ schrieb Paolo Vecchi >> <[email protected]>: >> >> Hi Franklin, >> >> thanks for the great proposal. >> >> As the LOOL archival discussion is planned for Monday I'll ask the >> board to modify the agenda to start discussing your' and Andreas' >> proposal. >> >> There is a lot that needs to be evaluated with the community to >> see if and in which way we can make LOOL available for the >> community again. >> >> Ciao >> >> Paolo >> >> On 24/06/2022 06:37, Franklin Weng wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> Here I have a proposal: to have LOOL respository sync to another >>> LOOL-derived suite: >>> >>> https://github.com/OSSII/oxool-community >>> <https://github.com/OSSII/oxool-community> >>> >>> OxOOL is developed by OSSII in Taiwan, derived from LOOL. It has >>> commercial version, which is several versions advanced to >>> community version, while the community version is also open >>> sourced. Currently National Development Council Taiwan, the main >>> dominant unit of ODF policy in Taiwanese government, uses (forks) >>> this community version into "NDCODFweb": >>> >>> https://github.com/NDCODF/ndcodfweb >>> <https://github.com/NDCODF/ndcodfweb> >>> >>> which is also mainly supported by OSSII. >>> >>> Besides NDCODFWeb and some other Taiwanese government units, >>> OxOOL is also used in different companies and products. For >>> example, it is integrated into ASUS cloud Omnistor Office >>> (https://www.asuscloud.com/omnistor-office/), OpenFind SecuShare >>> Pro (https://www.openfind.com.tw/taiwan/secusharepro.html). It is >>> migrated into Pou Chen Group (https://www.pouchen.com) and some >>> other big anonymous companies. Also, it is deployed in UNAU >>> (https://www.unau.edu.ar/la-universidad/ ). >>> >>> OxOOL v4 will be released in a month and can be a good and useful >>> base to LOOL, also good to the LibreOffice community. >>> >>> I'm not a representative of OSSII, but the GM of OSSII told me >>> that they are happy to share the community version. >>> >>> In this proposal there are two ways to relive LOOL: >>> >>> 1. To sync current LOOL with patches from OxOOL community v4, >>> which may technically take more time and efforts. >>> >>> 2. Start a new repository from OxOOL community v4, which I'll say >>> that it is actually a "fast forward" from current status since >>> OxOOL is also derived from LOOL, though a bit far before. It will >>> be technically easier than 1., just that maybe some community >>> people may feel uneasy or unhappy with this way. >>> >>> Both ways are okay for me, as long as LOOL can be relived. >>> However no matter which way, IMO TDF needs to employ in-house >>> developers (independent from *any* ecosystem member) for >>> rerunning LOOL. The second option, which is my prefer option, is >>> a lot easier technically and in-house developers would just need >>> to (cowork with community members and OSSII to) maintain LOOL >>> repository. >>> >>> Features in OxOOL commercial version are mostly (customized) >>> requests from customers and hence may not necessarily need to be >>> backported (to community version), but the GM of OSSII also >>> promised that OxOOL Commercial version functions (which they >>> think good / necessary to be back ported) and bugfixes will be >>> back ported to LOOL (and OxOOL community version too). >>> >>> Of course, after reliving LOOL all developers are welcomed to >>> contribute to LOOL. >>> >>> Details can be discussed with OSSII. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Franklin >>> >>> >>> Paolo Vecchi 於 2022/6/21 20:15 寫道: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> just a heads up in case the community would like to come up with >>>> proposals in regards to LibreOffice On-Line. >>>> >>>> As you might be aware LOOL's repository has been frozen since >>>> the major code contributor decided to move it to GitHub and not >>>> contribute back to TDF's repository. >>>> >>>> At the time there has been a debate about it but then nothing >>>> actionable seems to have been proposed by the community since then. >>>> >>>> Recently an ex-member of the ESC proposed to the ESC to archive >>>> LOOL [0] and during the following ESC meeting no concerns were >>>> expressed for doing so [1]. >>>> >>>> The "Attic Policy" [2], that has been written to archive >>>> obsolete projects, states that the Board will need to vote on >>>> the archival process to confirm ESC's choice. >>>> >>>> It is likely that the board will need to vote on it soon so if >>>> the community would like to do something with LOOL there might >>>> be a small window of opportunity to have your preferences on >>>> what to do with it heard. >>>> >>>> If nobody comes along proposing to look after it and update if >>>> so that it could be brought back into an usable form for the >>>> community then the board might have to vote for having LOOL >>>> archived. >>>> >>>> Ciao >>>> >>>> Paolo >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [0] >>>> >>>> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2022-June/088982.html >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> >>>> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2022-June/089018.html >>>> >>>> [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Policies/Attic >>>> >> -- Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors >> The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE >> Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts >> Legal details:https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint >> >> -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet. > >-- >Paolo Vecchi - Member of the Board of Directors >The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE >Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts >Legal details:https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet.
