I understand that legal matters warrant discretion, so I won't dispute that point. In fact, it's the one valid case where I think board-private should be used. I appreciate that Dick has enumerated examples and cases where board-private should be used and have recorded this list on the OpenID Fan Wiki:
https://openid.pbwiki.com/board-private Of course, expanding that page would be great. I understand that there are occasionally valid uses of such private conversations, but without adequate independent oversight, or a clear scope for use of such privileged communications, surely you can understand that suspicions, well-founded or not, may rise from time to time. This present case is mild on the whole, and represents a good case where any potential legal actions should be discussed in confidence. I don't disagree with that. But bounding the kinds of conversation that take place on the private list to a specific set of topics or items which match a public set of criteria is desirable, if it's not already been done. Chris On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:36 PM, DeWitt Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris, I recommended that this conversation, since it involves legal > matters, be moved ASAP to a closed list. It's not about keeping anyone out > of the loop, it's about making 100% sure you know exactly who your audience > is when discussing potentially litigious topics. Discussion about specific > use of trademarks qualify here, I'm afraid. > > No arguments from me about other uses of board-private, btw. We're trying > hard to self-deprecate that list and steer all other discussion to the > public lists. It's taking a bit of bad habit breaking, but I know people > (including myself) are working hard at it. > > -DeWitt > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Chris Messina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> This sounds contradicting -- Dick, are you saying that this discussion >> should be made public so the community it aware of it, or made private >> because "It is often inappropriate and counter productive in negotiations >> for your strategy and discussions to be public." >> Which side are you advocating for? >> >> Frankly I think the private list should be used as a last resort, if not >> banished altogether. >> >> I'm fed up with private back-door conversations with the "open" ID >> foundation. >> >> Chris >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Agree the community should be aware of issues and results. >>> It is often inappropriate and counter productive in negotiations for your >>> strategy and discussions to be public. >>> >>> -- Dick >>> >>> On 2-Dec-08, at 11:27 AM, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: >>> >>> Open is King! Why hide such an important subject? It's certainly >>> something the community and others should know about and to which results >>> we'd come eventually! >>> >>> Regards Signer: Eddy Nigg, StartCom Ltd.<http://www.startcom.org> >>> Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: Join the >>> Revolution!<http://blog.startcom.org> >>> Phone: +1.213.341.0390 >>> >>> On 12/02/2008 07:27 PM, DeWitt Clinton: >>> >>> Definitely sounds like a problem. We should discuss legal matters off >>> the public list, however. >>> >>> Off topic, do Marketwatch URL's really contain unencoded '{' and '}' >>> characters? Someone should really point them to RFCs 1738 and 2396. >>> >>> -DeWitt >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Johannes Ernst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/OpenQ-Announces-Release-Breakthrough-Solutions/story.aspx?guid= >>>> {3E32B03F-4DDD-4AC3-83F2-D02A46D39176} >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Johannes Ernst >>>> NetMesh Inc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://netmesh.info/jernst >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> board mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> board mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> board mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> board mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Chris Messina >> Citizen-Participant & >> Open Technology Advocate-at-Large >> factoryjoe.com # diso-project.org >> citizenagency.com # vidoop.com >> This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private >> >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > [email protected] > http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/board > > -- Chris Messina Citizen-Participant & Open Technology Advocate-at-Large factoryjoe.com # diso-project.org citizenagency.com # vidoop.com This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private
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