By the way, is there a job description for each officer seats noted somewhere?

I would love to see it.

=nat

Scott Kveton wrote:
+1 ... this would be a great thing to clarify in the by-laws ... I'll
make a note of it.

- Scott



On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Mike Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
I am a board member appointed by Microsoft just like you are a board member 
elected by the membership.  Both of us serve as individuals, albeit, with 
different procedures that granted us our board seats (both of which procedures 
were approved by the previous board).

Microsoft's membership class in OIDF gives them a right to appoint a board 
member.  The corporation is not the board member.

Should I no longer be Microsoft's board representative (as they do have the 
right to replace me) and I am elected to an officer position, that position 
would go vacant and the vacancy would have to be filled a special officer 
election by the board.

You would be choosing me -- not Microsoft.  Hope this clarifies things.

                               -- Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
David Recordon
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: =nat
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] First board meeting of 2009 ...

Mike et al,
I think some of where this breaks down is around who the board member
is.  My understanding is that Microsoft -- the corporation -- is a
board member who is represented by Mike Jones -- the person.  I thus
do not see how it makes sense for Microsoft to hold an officer
position within the Foundation.

--David

On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:15 AM, Mike Jones wrote:

You can find the last set of approved bylaws at 
http://openid.net/wordpress-content/uploads/2008/11/adopted-bylaws-openid-foundation-june-2007.pdf
.  Unfortunately, they're so old as to not even discuss the addition
of the new corporate board members.  (Updating to bylaws to match
the reality of the decisions made by the board in the last year-and-
a-half is one of the things that just plain didn't happen during
this board's tenure.)

As for being one board, we clarified this point by a vote of the
board on April 24th, 2008.  The minutes record this motion passing
unanimously:

Motion 1: Henceforward, all votes about any matters affecting OIDF
and its board will be open to all board members.
As per normal ethical conduct guidelines, individual board members
are expected to recuse themselves in cases of conflicts of interest.

While the text of the motion only talks about votes, the spirit of
what we clarifying with the motion was best summed up in David
Recordon's message of April 21st, 2008:  "+1 to Mike's motion.
We're one board. :)".

Other than that they are selected via different mechanisms and that
there must always be at least one more community corporate board
member than corporate board member, there's no difference in the
rights and responsibilities of the two kinds of board members.

To make this concrete, I believe that it would benefit the
foundation if I were elected to one of the officer positions --
possibly Vice-President, but would be open to other possibilities.
The reason that I believe you want me as an officer is that I have a
strong, demonstrated track record of getting things done for the
foundation.  Those things include (in roughly reverse chronological
order) chairing the elections committee (which brought you the
recent election), starting and co-chairing the PAPE working group
(demonstrating that the IPR policy works and producing a useful
spec), serving on the specs council and trying to get it to respond
in a timely fashion (still a work in progress), co-chairing the
local chapters committee (which brought you the approved local
chapters policy), and shepherding the process of writing and getting
approval for the IPR policy and procedures.

                              Best wishes,
                              -- Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:58 PM
To: Raj Mata
Cc: [email protected]; =nat
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] First board meeting of 2009 ...

Can anyone point me to the bylaws concerning corporate membership? I'd
like to understand more about the restrictions or responsibilities (if
any) placed on such memberships.

Chris

On 1/5/09, Raj Mata <[email protected]> wrote:
All,

Just got back from vacation, and have been catching up on my emails.

First of all, wish everyone a terrific 2009!

Second, congratulations to the new board members (and thank you
Mike for
making the elections a reality!)

Regarding this thread below, my understanding is:

a) The executive committee is comprised of 5 board members (The four
current officers called out by Scott below + a working group
liaison as
called out by Mike)

b) There is no requirement or distinction between corporate or
community
members for the executive committee i.e. the executive committee
could
theoretically be all 5 community board members or all 5 corporate
board
members. Once we have a board, then it is purely a matter of
picking the
right people from the board who have the skills and bandwidth to do
the
job.

Did I get that right?

Cheers,

Raj





-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Mike Jones
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:04 AM
To: [email protected]; Chris Messina
Cc: =nat
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] First board meeting of 2009 ...

I'm the 5th board member on the current Executive Committee -- in the
role of liaison to the working groups.  I'm also one of two
board-appointed members to the Specifications Council.  (The other is
Dick Hardt.)

                             -- Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Scott Kveton
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 10:59 AM
To: Chris Messina
Cc: [email protected]; =nat
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] First board meeting of 2009 ...

The 8th is good for me as well.
Which officer positions are available, how do we go about picking
them, and
who served them on the previous board? Are there any transition
plans?
All of the officer positions are available ... we have to fill and
who
is currently in them:

Chair - Scott Kveton
Vice-Chair - David Recordon
Secretary - Martin Atkins
Treasurer - Dick Hardt

The Executive Committee is made up of these officers and one member
of
the corporate board and was put together to help execute on things
without having the entire board involved in every decision.

The transition plan should be easy enough.  Bill Washburn has cooked
up a transition plan for the ED (once we figure out what we're doing
there) and I've been involved in the finances enough to be able to
help with that as well.

We'll want to make sure we transition the committees
appropriately ...
I don't think there is any requirement that committees be made up or
chaired by board members but we'll want to make sure that everything
is taken care of.

- Scott
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