On 23/06/10 21:49, Raistmer wrote:
> 
>> There is a huge difference between "feedback" and "bashing."
>>
>> We aren't talking about feedback.  Feedback is constructive.
[...]
> 
> BTW, just one more thought on topic:
> there are 2 kinds of feedback actually.
> Feedback on technical actions were done - bug reports is accepted way of 
> this feedback and not "bashing".
> But there is another type of feedback - feedback on way changes were 
> introduced, that is, social-related feedback. And high level of flaming on 
> boards IS versy constructive sign that changes were introduced in 
> inappropriate way. Analysis of this type of feedback is very valuable for 
> BOINC too. Because BOINC is not only about hardware, BOINC idea will not 
> work w/o human part, w/o participants.

Good thread and good points that I agree with.


For Boinc to work well, there is much more than just the coding for the
server-client-science system. The project forums includes direct
participant/volunteer feedback. (A vital part of the Boinc framework.)

Isn't the participant outreach the one thing that distinguishes Boinc
from the many other cluster/distributed processing systems?


As with ANY system, whether human, machine, environmental or whatever,
"open-loop" feedback systems will quickly race to wild extremes. I think
we see some of that on the s...@h message boards...

In non-tech speak that is: Without timely replies/comments from the
project admin people, the project forums do quickly explode into rumour
and fear and despair from even the most insignificant of
glitches/annoyances from the /expectations/ of even just a very few users.

For the example for s...@h at the moment, perhaps a clear message should be
posted that work will not always be available and that there will be
whatever scheduled downtime. Then be prepared for some very large cache
sizes from some users and bloated counts for WUs-in-progress... Be
prepared for the obvious screams about downloads limits being hit...

The "competitive" crunchers will be very unhappy, and noisy about that.


For the credits I'm sure that being kept in mind is that, all important
is that ultimately the credits system must be seen to be consistent and
above all: *fair to all*


Regards,
Martin

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