Wow, guys. I thought I explained it accurately and succinctly. I still think I did. Reread what I wrote earlier.
Anyway, the orphaned tray icon disappears on hover, because the Manager crashed after starting up. It is typical for tray icons to do that, when tray programs crash. I will try to learn more about this BOINC problem, but thought I researched it as much as I could, when I reported the issue to BOINC Alpha in March! From: Richard Haselgrove<mailto:r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2017 12:36 PM To: Art Masson<mailto:artmas...@gmail.com> Cc: Rom Walton<mailto:rwal...@ssl.berkeley.edu>; BOINC Developers Mailing List<mailto:boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu>; boinc_alpha email list<mailto:boinc_al...@ssl.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] [boinc_alpha] Disappearing BOINC Icon in System Tray (7.7.2) Requiring Manual Restart on Boot-Up Yes, I think it's a Windows 10 issue. I started with: Windows 10 Professional Version 1607 OS Build 14393.479 That displayed missing icons, unable to re-display autorun copy of Manager, etc. as we've been discussing. After a very long update session, I have all as above EXCEPT OS build 14393.1358 Now, the icon displays as you might expect: normally hidden in the Notification Area, but can be moved to the taskbar by drag'n'drop or by personalization. I had to work through http://www.howto-connect.com/customize-system-tray-on-windows-10-on-your-own-preference/ to work out all the options. Let's say that M$ have fixed it in build 1358 (and, hopefully, later). Another problem: after the big update session, Windows started BOINC v7.8.0, and BOINC displayed the BOINC notices tab and the 'attach project' wizard: which was blank, no projects available. However, once I'd dismissed all that and gone back to the tasks tab, all projects were present and crunching as normal. Haven't worked out why that happened yet. On Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 16:40, Art Masson <artmas...@gmail.com> wrote: After reboot I see the icon in the system tray, but as soon as I click on it, it disappears. Is that what you are seeing too? It does look like the app is actually running and stays running however -- and when I relaunch manually it seems to simply restore the tray icon. I do think this behavior occurred prior to 7.8 however ... still wondering if this isn't really a Windows 10 issue that's been there awhile. Art Sent from my iPhone 6s > On Jul 4, 2017, at 10:54 AM, Richard Haselgrove > <r.haselgr...@btopenworld.com> wrote: > > I'm working through the same tests - currently downloading June '17 > cumulative security patch. > > But I'm seeing no BOINC Manager icon in the system tray - either with a > previous homebuild, or with v7.8.0 > > But BOINC *does run* after restart, as can be confirmed in Task Manager - all > three components (BOINC.exe, BoincMgr, BoincTray) are running. But I haven't > (yet) found a way of restoring the auto-start copy of BOINC Manager to the > screen. The best I can do is to launch a second instance to control the > beast. Still looking. > > > On Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 15:37, Art Masson <artmas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Wow....I stand corrected. This morning I restarted two machines running > Windows 10 Creator and BOINC 7.8.0. Both machines experienced the > "disappearing" icon in the system tray problem. No idea why I didn't > experience this yesterday when I tested this. What was strange is that > when I restarted BOINC manually, it came up instantly on both machines > and the event log timing showed it had actually restarted on the > reboot...and was apparently already running (without the system try > icon). After I forced the BOINC launch, the system tray icon reappeared > and everything seems fine. > > By the way, I'm also testing the Mac BOINC version 7.8.0 on a machine > running MacOS Sierra 10.12.16 (Beta Release 5) with no problems so far. > > Art Masson > > > > > On 7/3/2017 6:16 PM, Art Masson wrote: > > > > I had a heck of a time getting Windows 10 Creator to load on this > > machine. The problem ultimately was that my Windows "system reserved > > partition" was only 100MB and was full/too small. After I increased > > the hidden partition size, Windows 10 Creator upgrade run > > successfully. However, I don't think my upgrade problems are directly > > replaced to the "disappearing icon" issue. I did see this problem > > consistently on another machine which had the previous version of > > Windows 10 on it -- where I had to manually restart BOINC each time > > the machine started or rebooted. I had done some research on the > > "startup" problem with applications on Windows 10, so frankly I've > > assumed that the problem was fixed in the latest release. However > > I've not upgraded the machine where I had the problem (will not be > > back home until next week to try it). Sorry I don't have more info, > > but the Windows 10 fails to startup application problem was referenced > > I believe (see link) and the various fixed suggested never worked for > > me..some apps started but some did not... > > > > https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-performance/windows-10-programs-do-not-launch/bae62ab1-b938-4c71-bfce-d5f1ee170f8f > > > > Not sure if this is related to the problem or a blind alley. When I > > get back home, I will confirm this behavior on my other Windows 10 > > machine, then do the Creator upgrade and see if the launch problem > > resolves itself. I do not have this problem on this machine running > > Windows 10 Creator -- but then I don't think I ever saw that "launch" > > problem on this machine either... > > > > Sorry I can't be of more help.... > > Art Masson > > > > > > On 7/3/2017 5:36 PM, David Anderson wrote: > >> Rom: > >> Any ideas on how to debug this problem? > >> -- David > >> > >> On 7/3/2017 2:24 PM, Jacob Klein wrote: > >>> > >>> This doesn't make sense to me. I had the problems with Windows 10 > >>> Creator’s update, and continue to have problems with Windows 10 > >>> Insider builds newer than that. My hunch is that Art has a scenario > >>> that masks/hides the issue. I still show it as broken. > >>> > >>> *From: *David Anderson <mailto:da...@ssl.berkeley.edu> > >>> *Sent: *Monday, July 3, 2017 5:14 PM > >>> *To: *Art Masson <mailto:artmas...@gmail.com>; boinc_alpha email > >>> list <mailto:boinc_al...@ssl.berkeley.edu> > >>> *Subject: *Re: [boinc_alpha] Disappearing BOINC Icon in System Tray > >>> (7.7.2) Requiring Manual Restart on Boot-Up > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >>> Jacob Klein, is this compatible with what you're seeing? > >>> -- D > >>> > >>> On 7/3/2017 11:23 AM, Art Masson wrote: > >>> > > >>> > I've just tested this with BOINC 7.8.0 and the application starts > >>> correctly when > >>> > Windows reboots or starts up on my machine. From my standpoint > >>> this incorrect > >>> > behavior appears to have been fixed with Windows 10 Creators > >>> release and was not a > >>> > BOINC application problem. > >>> > > >>> > Art Masson > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On 7/3/2017 12:04 PM, Art Masson wrote: > >>> >> REF: Disappearing BOINC Icon in System Tray (7.7.2) Requiring > >>> Manual Restart on > >>> >> Boot-Up > >>> >> > >>> >> Hi...I'm not seeing this problem with BOINC 7.7.2 now that I've > >>> upgraded to > >>> >> Windows 10 Creators version (10.00.15063.00) (newest release). I > >>> did see this > >>> >> problem with 7.7.2 and 7.6.33 with the previous Windows 10 release > >>> >> (10.00.14393.00). This appeared to be a problem with Windows > >>> startup actions > >>> >> because there were other apps that didn't start as well with the > >>> older Windows 10 > >>> >> release -- this was a known problem apparently. I have not > >>> tried with 7.8 yet. > >>> >> > >>> >> Art Masson > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> boinc_alpha mailing list > >>> boinc_al...@ssl.berkeley.edu > >>> https://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_alpha > >>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > >>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > >> > > > > -- > > -- > _______________________________________________ > boinc_alpha mailing list > boinc_al...@ssl.berkeley.edu > https://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_alpha > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > _______________________________________________ boinc_alpha mailing list boinc_al...@ssl.berkeley.edu https://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_alpha To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and (near bottom of page) enter your email address. _______________________________________________ boinc_dev mailing list boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu https://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and (near bottom of page) enter your email address. _______________________________________________ boinc_dev mailing list boinc_dev@ssl.berkeley.edu https://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and (near bottom of page) enter your email address.
