I think that you should get your priorities straight first, David. You
released a BOINC 7.8 onto the community and don't do anything about
aftercare, documentation, or release notes/version history.

What I dislike the most about this new setup is that you go ahead with
releasing a version, despite there being two or three people with
objections about it, and that when the community comes to the forums with
the problems, that that same community can go and figure out what is wrong
and how to fix that. There have been plenty of reports now about major bugs
in this client, or omissions of code, or omissions of fixes, severe
problems with VirtualBox.

What happens to some users out there is that they lose their complete data
directory before they can continue with a previous version. That means that
we released an Alpha version, because only on Alpha's do we expect that
things can go so bad that you can lose all your work.

In my opinion, the Release Manager has some more responsibility than just
throwing a new version onto the community: when there are problems out in
the world that you try to debug them with the community and where necessary
build a new version that fixes most of those problems; debug, fix, release,
debug, fix, release; until everything is somewhat stable again. Or if
that's too much work, officially remove the buggy version and go back to
the previous stable.

You don't just ignore the problems in the field, leave that to the
community to debug and meanwhilst go test a new version. Because when you
do it like that, the community will quickly quit trying to do anything with
this program again, because their complaints about it go unheard and it's
becoming unworkable. Meanwhilst, the helpers on the forums get the brunt of
your way of doing things, they get yelled at when it doesn't work, they get
pointed at as 'those cannot help me'.

So, please, work with us instead of against us, let's try to be one
community instead of the several. Really let's try to get 7.8 fixed first,
or go back to 7.6, but don't just blunder on and go test a new version when
the old version is wreaking havoc out there.


-- Jord van der Elst.

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 11:47 PM, David Anderson <da...@ssl.berkeley.edu>
wrote:

> Master has a number of improvements relative to 7.8.2,
> so I'd like to make a release branch and start testing soon.
>
> Is there any work in progress that I should wait for?
>
> Thanks -- David
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