Kresna Panggabean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:    Klip-klip di youtube itu 
palingan postingan para "pengemar" divingnya Gerrard. Gw sih gak pernah liat, 
tapi kalo cari klip "Ronaldo diving" sih pernah liat.

Teori kalo orang ditarik kaosnya jatuh ke belakang sih bisa jadi, tapi secara 
narik kaos kan pelanggaran tul gak? Terlepas jatuhnya ke depan atau ke 
belakang, still pelanggaran. 

Frely Pakan wrote:

soal gerard diving pa gak sih tiap orang mungkin punya versi tersendiri. too 
bad, clattenburg mihak pool padahal bisa dibilang gak ada tackle dari hibbert. 
kalo alasannya karena kaosnya ditarik ya jadi aneh, masa kaos ditarik ke 
belakang malah jatuh ke depan. 
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  daile kresna, ngapain cape2 nanggepin "bitter" frely....:)
  biasanya pinter nih frely, tapi karena udah apriori/negatif mikirnya makanya 
gak heran ngomong ngaco...emang pinalti cuma karena tackle doank ya...handball 
bisa, "ngeganggu" pemain lawan yang udah dalam posisi bebas nyetak gol juga 
bisa..cari sendiri aturannya, biar kembali pinter...hehehehe....
   
  biar frely dan para pengamat di milis ini ada sedikit bandingan, sedikit 
kutipan dari media inggris (link-nya cari sendiri, biar pinter):
   
  The Independent:
  Seven minutes into the second half, Liverpool were level after their captain, 
Steven Gerrard, was brought down by Tony Hibbert – the Everton defender was 
rightly sent off, as he was clearly the last man.
   
  The Scotsman
  Both Everton dismissals were for incidents that produced Liverpool's 
second-half penalties. Hibbert brought down Steven Gerrard in the box and 
Neville handled on the line.
   
  The full-back was always a yard behind and when the pair reached the box the 
defender clipped Gerrard and referee Mark Clattenburg instantly awarded a 
penalty on 53 minutes
   
  Sunday Mirror:
  Benitez suggested that Gerrard had paid the price for not putting his brain 
into gear after Hibbert had seen red for bringing him down - to concede the 
52nd minute penalty from which Kuyt cancelled out Sami Hyypia's spectacular 
own-goal.
   
  BBC Sport:
  Kuyt scored from the spot after 54 minutes when Tony Hibbert was sent off for 
hauling down Steven Gerrard as he raced clear on goal
   
  lihat tuh..."brought down", "bringing down", "howling down", "right sent-off 
as he clearly the last man", "as he (gerrard) raced clear on goal", "the full 
back was always a yard behind". gue tetep percaya frely dan para pengamat 
"bitter" lainnya masih cukup pinter buat ngertiin kalimat diatas dan 
hubungannya kenapa pinalti pool itu sah...:)
   
  ude ye...ngomongin yang lain napa, liverpool terus bikin bosen aja, toh gak 
bakal ngrubah kenyataan that we are england's most decorated club (apa gue 
pajang lagi ya signatur ini?...hehehe).
   
  -omar-
   
   
    

       
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