This makes sense. I'll fix the bug and change the default.

Cheers,
Dan


On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Kevin <[email protected]> wrote:
> I can't really speak for others, but for me, I want the visitor, more often
> than not a search engine to know that what they are looking for does not
> exist.  I have a number of very old sites which have thousands of hits to
> them for content that simply doesn't exist anymore and/or has been
> reformatted completely different.  The current default it telling the search
> engine, they found it, when in fact they didn't so they keep updating their
> engine result as if there really was content there.
>
> There is a bit of a security aspect too... I'm sure we all have seen
> attempts to see if some particular package is installed on your site in a
> string of tests that hit all at once,  Those bots typically collect the
> results and come back later to try to exploit them.  With even bad hits
> showing up with 200 codes, it makes it look like you have all that stuff
> when you may have none of it.
>
> Last thing you need is to have some bot then hitting your site with tons of
> exploit attempts clogging up your traffic, logs etc..
>
> Up until now, they all were reported as 200 Ok... example this morning...
>
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //admin/mysql/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4484
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //admin/phpmyadmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4487
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //admin/pma/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4483
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //admin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4473
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //controls/ps3-dbadmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4491
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //db/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4471
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //dbadmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4475
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //myadmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4474
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //myadmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4474
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //mysql-admin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4477
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //mysql/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4474
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //mysqladmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4477
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //mysqlmanager/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4479
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //p/m/a/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4482
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //php-my-admin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4479
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //php-myadmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4478
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //phpm/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4473
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //phpmanager/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4477
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //phpmy-admin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4478
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //phpmy/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4475
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //phpMyA/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4479
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //phpmyad-sys/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4478
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //phpmyad/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4476
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //phpMyAdmi/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4481
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //phpMyAdmin-2.10.0/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4505
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //phpMyAdmin-2/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4485
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //phpmyadmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 404 226
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //phpmyadmin2/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4480
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //phpMyAdmin2/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4482
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //phpMyAds/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4481
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //PMA/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4475
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //PMA2005/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4479
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //pma2005/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4476
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //sqlmanager/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4475
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //sqlweb/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4474
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //vhcs2/tools/pma/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4495
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //vhcs/tools/pma/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4493
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //tools/pma/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4483
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //web/phpMyAdmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4492
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //webadmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4475
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //webdb/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4474
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //websql/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4476
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //xampp/phpMyAdmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4494
> 94.63.246.3 "GET //phpmy/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1" 200 4475
>
> That bot (now blocked) thinks I've got all those goodies to play with when
> none of them are there or at least not setup in that fashion
>
> I have been updating all my sites to use it.
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:58 PM, The Editor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Looks like you are right Kevin. I will fix that along with a couple
>> other things and put out a new release soon.   :)
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, should the default behavior be to use these
>> server headers or not?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Kevin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Is this the right syntax?
>> >
>> > if (BOLTconfig('serverHeaders') == 'true')
>> >
>> > Seems that other things that look at BOLTconfig are using something
>> > like:
>> >
>> > BOLTconfig('BOLTautoLines', 'true');
>> >
>> > Where the item being look for is preceded with BOLT
>> >
>> > Changing lines in engine.php seem to make it work..
>> >
>> > if (BOLTconfig('BOLTserverHeaders') == 'true') header('HTTP/1.1 404 Not
>> > Found');
>> >
>> > and
>> >
>> > if (BOLTconfig('BOLTserverHeaders') == 'true') header('HTTP/1.1 403
>> > Forbidden');
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Kevin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dan, did you get a chance to see why this didn't work?
>> >>
>> >> I added serverHeaders: true and it made no difference.   I tried the
>> >> same
>> >> on a few others with the same results.
>> >>
>> >> They return HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>> >> Regardless of what page I hit, existing or not.
>> >>
>> >> I see where the code is in engine.php, but I've not tried to setup some
>> >> sort of test to see if it is triggering or not.
>> >>
>> >> These are all 3.4.14.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Kevin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Tried that and it didn't seem to make a change.  Still outputs a 200
>> >>> code.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:22 PM, The Editor <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Try putting serverHeaders: true in site.config and see if that works.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We could make it the default easily enough. I'm open to arguments for
>> >>>> the pro's con's.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers,
>> >>>> Dan
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Kevin <[email protected]>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > I've noticed lots of hits for an older site from search engines for
>> >>>> > content
>> >>>> > that simply does not and should not exist.  currently that triggers
>> >>>> > the
>> >>>> > action.missing page which from the logs shows it is return code of
>> >>>> > 200.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Is there a way to get action.missing to issue a 404 code?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Example log entry:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > ycar8.mobile.re3.yahoo.com - - [23/Jan/2011:19:23:42 -0500] "GET
>> >>>> > /greyhound.htm HTTP/1.1" 200 14435 "-" "YahooCacheSystem"
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I saw a posting titled "Reporting 404 messages to error logs" which
>> >>>> > someone
>> >>>> > was modifying the library.php but your reply indicated you had
>> >>>> > already
>> >>>> > added
>> >>>> > hooks to do this.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Perhaps this should be a default ??
>> >>>> >
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