Thank you for your comprehensive answer.
I will ponder the idea further ...

Greetings, Martin

Am Montag, 11. Mai 2020 19:26:00 UTC+2 schrieb Dan:
>
> Hi Martin!
>
> I read the document you sent me and tried to send a direct response, but 
> your email rejected it twice. So thought I would post here. Maybe a good 
> idea as others may have input on this.
>
> First I now see now what you meant by a page builder, and I think that is 
> quite doable in BoltWire. If you look at my main site (www.fast.st) when 
> you are logged out, you will see there are multiple blocks, and each of 
> them comes from a different page in BoltWire, with fully configurable 
> styling. This is possible here only because there is no side menu. I 
> actually use a different skin for this than what I use elsewhere on my 
> site, and I can create the same effect on other pages by simply using that 
> same alternate skin on the page. I currently have an entire splash folder 
> with pages that automatically use this skin, which I use for special 
> landing pages. I also use it on a full-page video conferencing screen 
> (using jitsi) for my classes and webinars.
>
> And actually the new BoltWire site uses the same technique, with a 
> separate skin for the welcome page. The key again, is not having a side 
> menu which then allows you to build the page block by block. Once you 
> create a framework that plugs the main contents of the page into a defined 
> space, you become more limited. Remove that framework, and BoltWire can 
> easily create the kind of blocks you want. 
>
> I will be sure to include this full-screen skin as well as the default one 
> and use it for the welcome page in version 7.xx, with an easy way to change 
> the background image. But I should note, this is a much harder way to build 
> the site in one sense as each block has to be carefully styled within the 
> page, whereas the default skin sets the borders for the main zone in a 
> single css file, and you just enter page content. So you need some css 
> skill to fashion each block. IE, it's not super user friendly. It would be 
> cool to pre-build a bunch of templates for different kinds of blocks that 
> you could copy and paste into your page and then edit them. 
>
> Here's my quick idea for creating a more automatic page builder: Let's say 
> you create a page called splash.product, that runs on our landing page 
> skin. And that page simply does a search for child pages (splash.product.1, 
> splash.product.2, etc), and displays them using the search function. Then 
> for your page builder you create an action you can run on the page you are 
> building (splash.product), with a list of blocks you click to select a 
> basic format. That pulls a template in to an edit box. You customize the 
> content and tweak and save to the subpage name you want (using the thread 
> function to generate the page name). The action closes and brings you back 
> to the parent page and voila the new block is added. Or to make it easier, 
> save the list of subpages as a data field and just use the list function to 
> display them. That way, to change up the order, you just reorder the data 
> field.
>
> I don't see any problems with this approach. In fact, if we had someone 
> who wanted to take a stab at building 6-8 common blocks, I could probably 
> hack together the builder in a matter of minutes. It would be worth giving 
> it a try...
>
> So in sum, yes, I'll include both skins in the default engine. I envision 
> a "splash" directory that uses this full page skin, and likely, if we can 
> get someone to draft up some basic building blocks, I could include a 
> simple page builder as well. What do you think? Alternately, I could write 
> up a tutorial in the growth guides...
>
> Cheers,
> Dan
>
> PS. Also appreciate your comments about the welcome tour and will give 
> them some jmore thought. 
>
> *Climb higher in your walk with God...*
> *WWW.FASTMISSIONS.COM <http://WWW.FASTMISSIONS.COM>*
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