> On April 23, 2014, 10:22 a.m., Ivan Kelly wrote:
> > bookkeeper-server/src/main/proto/BookkeeperProtocol.proto, line 104
> > <https://reviews.apache.org/r/17895/diff/2/?file=563033#file563033line104>
> >
> >     You're sending StatusCode twice, every time. Firstly, shouldn't be an 
> > enum as stated above. Secondly, shouldn't be required.
> 
> Sijie Guo wrote:
>     > enum
>     
>     as the comments above.
>     
>     > status code twice.
>     
>     the status code for ReadResponse/AddResponse is for individual responses. 
> if we are going to support kind of batch reads, the status code of Response 
> means either the whole batch succeed or not while the individual read 
> responses might have different status codes (e.g OK or NotExists). That is 
> why it exists two places.
>     
>     > required
>     
>     as the comments above
> 
> Ivan Kelly wrote:
>     Per request makes sense. However, in that case, can't you just remove the 
> per packet status?
> 
> Sijie Guo wrote:
>     Nope. the packet status indicates whether the packet succeed or not. say 
> if it is batch read, if the total batch read failed, it would set the whole 
> packet status to be failed and there would be no individual responses in the 
> packet since the whole batch failed.
> 
> Ivan Kelly wrote:
>     Then it should have a different name. Like entryStatus & packetStatus. 
> But then you also have a consistency problem. What is packetStatus is OK, but 
> one entryStatus is an error? Will there be a SOME_OK error? In what scenario 
> would a whole read batch fail?
> 
> Sijie Guo wrote:
>     if ledger isn't exists, then a packet status with NoSuchLedgerExists is 
> returned. if ledger exists, but some entries are missing, so ok is returned 
> for the packet, but NoSuchEntry would be returned for the missing entries.
> 
> Ivan Kelly wrote:
>     this would be better handled with a batch intermediatory message, defined 
> like
>     
>     message Response {
>         required BKPacketHeader header = 1;
>     
>         optional ReadResponse readResponse = 100;
>         optional AddResponse addResponse = 101;
>         optional BatchReadResponse batchReadResponse = 102;
>     }
>     
>     message ReadResponse {
>         required StatusCode status = 1;
>         required int64 ledgerId = 2;
>         required int64 entryId = 3;
>         optional bytes body = 4;
>     }
>     
>     message BatchReadResponse {
>         optional StatusCode status = 1;
>         repeated ReadResponse entries = 2;
>     }
>     
>     message AddResponse {
>         required StatusCode status = 1;
>         required int64 ledgerId = 2;
>         required int64 entryId = 3;
>     }
>
> 
> Sijie Guo wrote:
>     the point of differentiating the status code in packet from the one in 
> operations. there are common status codes which are in packet level not 
> related to individual operations, like 'bad request', 'authentication 
> failure' etc, in this case they could be handled in packet level rather than 
> operations level. otherwise, you need to add duplicated logic to handle those 
> common things in operation responses each time you added new type of 
> requests. doesn't this make a call for separating packet status from 
> operation status?

>  otherwise, you need to add duplicated logic to handle those common things in 
> operation responses each time you added new type of requests.
You have duplicate logic here anyhow. (PerChannelBookieClient.java:633)
It does make some sense to have a packet level status and an op level status. 
But then they shouldn't share codes. StatusCode should be split into 
PacketStatusCode and OpStatusCode.


> On April 23, 2014, 10:22 a.m., Ivan Kelly wrote:
> > bookkeeper-server/src/main/proto/BookkeeperProtocol.proto, line 33
> > <https://reviews.apache.org/r/17895/diff/2/?file=563033#file563033line33>
> >
> >     This should certainly not be an enum. Otherwise we need to bump the 
> > protocol version each time we add an error code.
> >     
> >     Imagine the scenario where both server and client are running 4.3.0. 
> > Then the server is upgraded with 4.3.1 which a new error EPRINTERONFIRE. It 
> > sends this to the client who throws a decode error.
> 
> Sijie Guo wrote:
>     how could being not enum help this? if it is integer, client still has no 
> idea how to interpret, so it is still invalid response from 4.3.0 client. I 
> thought we reached an agreement on enum on the ticket, no?
> 
> Ivan Kelly wrote:
>     So for version and operationtype, enum is ok. These originate at the 
> client, so if the servers are always upgraded at the client, there's no 
> interoperability issues. Status codes originate at the server though, so it 
> is possible for the server to send a statuscode that is unrecognised to a 
> client. The normal way to handle this would be a "else" or "default:" to pass 
> this up to the client as a BKException.UnexpectedConditionException. If it's 
> an enum, this will throw a decode exception in the netty decoder, which is 
> harder to handle.
>     
>     To resolve this on the server side, by checking the version and only 
> sending errors valid for that version, implies two things. Firstly, every 
> error code change will require the version to be bumped and secondly, that 
> there will need to be a list maintained for which errors are valid for each 
> version. This goes against the motivation for using protobuf in the first 
> place.
> 
> Sijie Guo wrote:
>     this is the application level agreement, no? it doesn't matter that u are 
> using a protobuf protocol or using current protocol, or it also doesn't 
> matter that u are using an integer or an enum. in any case, the best way is 
> as you described, you shouldn't send new status code back to an old client, 
> as the new status code is meaningless to the old client.
> 
> Ivan Kelly wrote:
>     but how do you know its an old client? Only by bumping the version number 
> each time you add an error code. In which case you end up with a whole lot of 
> junk like "if (client.version == X) { send A } else if (client.version == Y) 
> { send B } else if (client.version ..." which is exactly what protobuf was 
> designed to avoid (see "A bit of history" on 
> https://developers.google.com/protocol-buffers/docs/overview).
> 
> Sijie Guo wrote:
>     a else or default branch would make the behavior unpredictable as an old 
> client is treating a new status code as some kind of unknown. as you said, 
> you want to treat them as UnexpectedConditionException. But what does 
> UnexpectedConditionException means? doesn't it mean the sever already breaks 
> backward compatibility, since server couldn't satisfy the old client's 
> request.
>     
>     so still, if server wants to be backward compatibility to clients, in any 
> cases, it needs to know what version of protocol that the client is speaking 
> and handle them accordingly, not just let client to do their job in an 
> unexpected way.
>     
>     I don't see any elegant solutions without detecting protocol version. if 
> you have, please describe how not being enum would avoid this.
> 
> Ivan Kelly wrote:
>     the default behaviour for an unknown error code is something we already 
> use today.
>     
> https://github.com/apache/bookkeeper/blob/trunk/bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/proto/PerChannelBookieClient.java#L714
>     
>     The client only needs to know that the request failed. the point of the 
> different error codes is so that the client could take specific recovery 
> steps. the default behaviour is just to pass the error up.
> 
> Sijie Guo wrote:
>     the default behavior was there just for all already known status codes. 
> but it doesn't mean it is correct for any unknown status codes. and when u 
> are saying 'the client only needs to know that the request failed', you are 
> making an assumption that there is only one status code indicating OK, other 
> status code should be taken as failed. but it isn't true. say in an old 
> protocol, we supported range reads, it responded with OK, list of entry 
> response (0 = <data>, 1 = missing, 2 = missing, 3 = <data>). if we are going 
> to improve our protocol to make communication more efficient, we are going to 
> change the protocol to get rid of transferring missing entries: responding 
> with PARTIAL_OK, list of existing entries (0 = <data>, 3 = <data>). 
>     
>     in this case, if server doesn't distinguish the client's protocol, just 
> respond every range reads with PARTIAL_OK, would did break the compatibility 
> with old protocol, as old protocol treats it as failure by default behavior. 
> in order to maintain backward compatibility, server needs to detect the 
> client's protocol and responds accordingly. as what I said, for backward 
> compatibility, a protocol doesn't really help if it involves behavior in 
> application agreement. and a default behavior is not exact right.
>     
>     for me, using protocol. it means that it is easy for us to add new 
> requests type, add new fields in existing requests. besides that, we need to 
> keep the backward compatibility in our level.
> 
> Ivan Kelly wrote:
>     when i say that 'the client only needs to know that the request failed', 
> it means that the client only needs to recognise the statuses which indicate 
> success. for any request, the status codes which indicate success should 
> never change. For a read request or add request, only OK is SUCCESS. For 
> range read,  only PARTIAL_OK and OK are success. But the client will never 
> send a range read request unless it already knows about PARTIAL_OK.
> 
> Sijie Guo wrote:
>     > “But the client will never send a range read request unless it already 
> knows about PARTIAL_OK.” 
>     
>     the example that I made is that the range read introduced with OK, but if 
> it is going to evolved to have PARTIAL_OK. then that will be an problem.

Partial_ok doesn't make sense if you're using the concept of packet status and 
operation status (as mentioned below).


- Ivan


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On April 24, 2014, 7:43 a.m., Sijie Guo wrote:
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> (Updated April 24, 2014, 7:43 a.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for bookkeeper and Ivan Kelly.
> 
> 
> Bugs: BOOKKEEPER-582
>     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BOOKKEEPER-582
> 
> 
> Repository: bookkeeper-git
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> - introducing protobuf support for bookkeeper
> - for server: introduce packet processor / EnDecoder for different protocol 
> supports
> - for client: change PCBC to use protobuf to send requests
> - misc changes for protobuf support
> 
> (bookie server is able for backward compatibility) 
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
>   bookkeeper-server/pom.xml ebc1198 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/bookie/IndexInMemPageMgr.java
>  56487aa 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/client/LedgerChecker.java
>  28e23d6 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/client/PendingReadOp.java
>  fb36b90 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/processor/RequestProcessor.java
>  241f369 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/proto/BookieProtoEncoding.java
>  1154047 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/proto/BookieRequestHandler.java
>  b922a82 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/proto/BookieRequestProcessor.java
>  8155b22 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/proto/BookkeeperProtocol.java
>  PRE-CREATION 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/proto/PacketProcessorBase.java
>  PRE-CREATION 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/proto/PacketProcessorBaseV3.java
>  PRE-CREATION 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/proto/PerChannelBookieClient.java
>  a10f7d5 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/proto/ReadEntryProcessor.java
>  PRE-CREATION 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/proto/ReadEntryProcessorV3.java
>  PRE-CREATION 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/proto/WriteEntryProcessor.java
>  PRE-CREATION 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/main/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/proto/WriteEntryProcessorV3.java
>  PRE-CREATION 
>   bookkeeper-server/src/main/proto/BookkeeperProtocol.proto PRE-CREATION 
>   bookkeeper-server/src/main/resources/findbugsExclude.xml 97a6156 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/test/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/proto/TestProtoVersions.java
>  5fcc445 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/test/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/replication/AuditorPeriodicCheckTest.java
>  3f8496f 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/test/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/test/BookieClientTest.java
>  bc05229 
>   
> bookkeeper-server/src/test/java/org/apache/bookkeeper/test/TestBackwardCompat.java
>  8376b46 
>   compat-deps/bookkeeper-server-compat-4.2.0/pom.xml PRE-CREATION 
>   compat-deps/hedwig-server-compat-4.2.0/pom.xml PRE-CREATION 
>   compat-deps/pom.xml f79582d 
>   hedwig-server/pom.xml 06cf01c 
>   
> hedwig-server/src/test/java/org/apache/hedwig/server/TestBackwardCompat.java 
> 8da109e 
> 
> Diff: https://reviews.apache.org/r/17895/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> unit tests. backward tests.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sijie Guo
> 
>

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