On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 09:12:59PM -0600, Dave Gomboc wrote:
> > The point is that optional<T> is not a T, and most notably, a template
> > function will never perform the coercion.  Replace the lines like
> >    B b = get<2>(args); 
> > in your example with real calls to, e.g.
> >    do_something( get<2>(args) )
> > and do_something() is likely to fail if it's a template function
> > (expecting a T and not an optional<T>).
> 
> Okay, you've demonstrated that it may not be possible to drop-in
> optional<T> for T with zero code changes when T is not a scalar type.  
> (Usually, my Ts are! ;-)  Nonetheless, it is at least still possible to
> write generic code that accepts either T or the wrapped T, which is
> definitely an improvement over writing a whack of special-casing code.

Indeed.

[snipped most of code]

> template <typename T>
> class nilable {
> public:
...
>     operator T(void) const {
>         if (nil_) throw std::bad_cast();
>         return value_;
>     };
...

I'd add

      T get() { return T(*this); }   
      // in reality, return T& -- using T here just to show the idea

...
>     try {
>         nilable< std::vector<int> > nv(v);
>         //output(nv);                  // true, this fails
>         output(std::vector<int>(nv));  // but this succeeds!
          
As does

          output( nv.get() );

>         nilable< std::vector<int> > nv2;
>         output(std::vector<int>(nv2)); // and this throws as expected.

Again I'd prefer

          output( nv2.get() );

I was originally arguing with Joel because I thought he wanted to use
exactly "nv" and not anything like "nv.get()".  I think now that we've
cleared up the confusion about get() returning a reference instead of a
pointer, we're all back on the same page.

-- 
-Brian McNamara ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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