Hi

So we need another issue in the EBBR tracker:

console guidance (serial or graphical) from firmware to OS in both DT and
ACPI. The firmware may use programatic or runtime advanced techniques such
as HDMI monitor presence and use a "to be specified" method to signal the
right selection.

When it comes to the issue I added, we can say it is targeted at system
that we know in advance the console is on serial. so with
DT:/chosen/stdout-path and ACPI:/SPCR (without AML interpreter) we have
simple ways to detect the device to use. Is it a safe first step to add to
EBBR ?

Cheers

FF

On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 09:30, Ard Biesheuvel <a...@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 05:54, Dong Wei <dong....@arm.com> wrote:
> >
> > There is also the SPCR table
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/serports/serial-port-console-redirection-table?redirectedfrom=MSDN
> > This is the primary serial console
> >
>
> One of the issues we still have not fixed in Linux is the
> inconsistency in interpretation of what 'serial console' actually
> means.
>
> On Windows, the serial console is a low-level admin interface that may
> be exposed in addition to the full blown graphical user interface,
> which is always available. The SPCR describes how this admin interface
> is exposed, but does not affect what happens on the GUI.
>
> In Linux, the console *is* the primary interface, either graphical or
> serial. Currently, the mere presence of a SPCR is taken as an
> indication that only the serial console should be enabled; for this
> reason, the UEFI ports we have for platforms with PCIe expansion carry
> a driver that removes the SPCR again if UEFI detects the presence of a
> graphical interface.
>
> Unfortunately, this is not something we can easily change without
> breaking existing systems. Note that annotating device objects in the
> DSDT is probably not the right approach here, given that this requires
> the AML interpreter to be up and running before we can decide where
> the console lives.
>
> As Heinrich points out, we have a similar problem today when it comes
> to the graphical interface on DT systems, i.e., it is not clear how to
> convey that the user expects the interaction with the system to occur
> via the graphical UI and not via a serial port. For a bootloader such
> as u-boot, it should be fairly easy to suppress the stdout-path if
> u-boot itself is running on the graphical display, but it would be
> better to communicate the presence of this GUI *in addition to* a
> serial port serving as a console.
>


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