>>>>> "TM" == Tom Metro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
TM> William Ricker wrote: >> Damian voted for Small Miracles, so I think it's 15:2:1. TM> Ronald J Kimball wrote: >> The talk will likely be Small Miracles. >> http://damian.conway.org/Seminars/Miracles.html >> >> In 2003 Damian arrived at the YAPC::NA conference only to be told that he >> had to give both keynotes, rather than just the one he had prepared. >> "Oh, and we need you to present the extra one this time tomorrow." Ever >> wondered what you'd get if you locked Damian in a hotel room for 24 hours >> with nothing but a perl interpreter, a deadline, and a dozen PowerBars? >> This talk reveals the ten terrifying answers. TM> Could someone who has heard this talk before elaborate on what it is TM> really about? a major component of the 'small miracles' talk is how it came into being. so describing it in advance will ruin some of its punch (it will still boggle). suffice it to say it was the emergency keynote (larry got very ill at the last minute) for yapc::boca. the theme is about how damian found a topic and then was able to create perl modules related to it. i guarantee it will be fun and maybe more than the usual level of mind boggling. the perl6: sky is falling talk is more straightforward. damian collected a handful of smallish tool/utility perl5 scripts which were used very often by their authors. he then proceeds to rewrite them into perl6 in two phases. the first is a straight translation of the p5 code to p6 syntax. this shows how little change is needed to do basic migration. but wait! there's more! the second phase uses p6's idioms and style to do another rewrite of the first clunky p6 translation. this code emerges with more elegance and clarity and is really what perl6 code should look like. btw, this doesn't even go near ponie (p5 on parrot) or that p6 will be able to parse and run p5 code (via ponie) or that larry is working on a p5->p6 translator (which will work on at least 90% of 90% of all programs). so small miracles is pure perl5 stuff but is a much more interesting talk from a fun point of view and sky is falling is a 'how easy it is to migrate p5 to p6' talk. since damian's free talks are more about fun, i voted for small miracles. as bill said, so did damian and that means a lot too. i feel it will be a blast to hear that talk again. whereas i enjoyed 'sky' and learned a lot, nothing in it boggled me at all. put it another way, you could read the slides of sky and get most of it but you have to see/hear damian give small miracles to savor its insanity properly. :) hope that clears it up without giving much away. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org _______________________________________________ Boston-pm mailing list [email protected] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm

