hi all,

i have been consulting with a local firm founded by some mit kids (hi
justin!). i mentioned to them that they could use a few more inexpensive
coders like some mit students but they said they can't find any who know
perl. this brings me to the title of this email, perl vs. mit.

from what i can tell for some reason perl is not a major thing in the
mit culture. sure it is used in niches like sysadmin, bioinformatics,
etc. but it doesn't seem to be learned by the average CS student there
and i wonder why? php is used a lot which is very surprising since it is
such a poorly designed tool from a technical point of view. mit can't
claim academic interest in php is high.

there is also a very amusing cultural overlap between mit and perl that
should make for a better overlap in usage. both groups use the term
hacker in the classic sense of someone who hacks away at a project. mit
possibly originated the usage and it is still prevalent there. we hacked
away at lab assignments, thesis, problem sets and we were called hackers
proudly. perl hackers also take on the term in a proud way (randal is
probably the main source of that association). so why wouldn't there be
more usage overlap given that common understanding and usage of the
glorious hacker name?

one idea is that mit is lisp/scheme and academically oriented and perl
is so street and dirty. yet perl is closer to lisp than most other langs
with its closures, lists, symbol manipulation, etc. perl just has infix
notation and proper values (a scalar is much better than a lisp cell :).
perl gets the job done which is a major mit engineering attribute.

perl has been taught at mit during IAP (a january minisession) and there
is/was a perl mailing list there. i haven't found much support for those
things (all found through searching mit for YAPC hosting). as i said it
is used in whitehead for bioinformatics and other niches but not much
else.

so any thoughts on why this is the case? any ideas on how to push perl
at the tute? will perl6 win them over for academic reasons?

thanx,

uri

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