Thanks, Bill, another good option to consider.  Might be the
best of all if we get blocked on the HTTPS side.  

Thanks to all who so quickly and generously shared your
thoughts.  I conclude that our initial impression is correct
-- there isn't a good single reference on this topic and
we're going to have to gather the pieces and stitch it
together ourselves. This is a great start. 

Jim



----- Original Message Follows -----
From: "Ricker, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ben Tilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Christopher Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Boston.pm] Force browser rendering of a
partial dataset?
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:43:11 -0400

> Thanks Ben, great answer.
> 
> The "modern" Web2.0 version is to render the entire blank
> table and rest of page as the first request and then use
> JavaScript to fill in each cell. 
>   This might not answer the original post's problem, since
> it requires more than just format change serverside, but
> doesn't require paginating, just passing the data as XML
> or JSON separate from format.
> 
> This has network overhead (HTTP roundtrip per JS request)
> but gives users something to see.  One could use one of
> the JSON modules on CPAN to generate the replies, or even
> a single big XML/JSON reply that maps to the whole table,
> and some nice JS routine parses and stuffs cell-per-cell
> for you.  Easiest would be a CPAN module that matches a JS
> library so you have browserside support. Haven't played
> with that yet.
> 
> In a similar vein, but very minimalist, my page
> http://ema.arrl.org/fd/history/analysis.html initially
> renders a generic background and then replaces it with a
> (pre-computed) graph requested in the form.  After page
> finishes render, onload="change_pix(); picks up the
> default values in theform's pulldowns and changes it.  No
> JSON marshalling or parsing is required since graphics are
> offline computed with Perl Imager, Text::CSV, and Treemap
> (as seen on Perl Advent Calendar
> http://perladvent.pm.org/2006/3/ ),so JS just computes
> compound name of selected statistical graphic.
> 
> In codesample below, FD2002-pin.gif is the initial "blank"
> background, forcibly scaled to the size of the real
> graphs.
> 
> 
> <script>
> <!--
> 
>  function change_pix() 
>  {
>  var a_file = "data/fd_"
>    +theform.year.value+"_"
>    +theform.where.value+"_"
>    +theform.how.value+".png";
> 
>   var caption_str = "Analysis for "+theform.where.value+"
> in "+theform.year.value+" by "+theform.how.value;
> 
>  document.getElementById("caption").innerHTML = 
> caption_str;
>  document.getElementById("treemap").src       = a_file
> 
>  return;
>  }
> 
> 
> -->
> </script>
> ..
> <BODY onload="change_pix();">
> ..
> <img name="treemap" id="treemap" src="FD2002-pin.gif"
> width="800" height="600">
> 
> 
> [This JS code is not from $DayJob but from EMA.ARRL.ORG
> volunteer work and the Perl Advent Calendar. (The Perl
> code was reused for a POC at $DayJob too.)]
> 
> 
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