ActivePerl does seem to keep lagging a version or so lately, but from what
I've seen they are committed to moving forward.  No idea on the time table.

We don't do much Windows anymore, but we do use ActivePerl @ $job.
Installing from CPAN hasn't been a problem for a few versions now (since
5.18?).  You used to need to supply your own compiler MS for any CPAN
extensions with XS.  These days ActivePerl is compiled with MinGW and CPAN
can automatically install that and dmake to do any building for you.
Worked well when I needed it.

-Andrew


On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Bill Ricker <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Shlomi Fish <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > chocolatey is a package manager for windows, similar to
> > apt/yum/dnf/pacman/etc.
> > for Linux - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NuGet#Chocolatey and it is
> > not
> > specific to perl. It allows one to install a strawberry perl package,
> which
> > should be the same as the one from http://strawberryperl.com/ .
>
>
> ​Ok, that Nougat pun is bad enough i'm sorry i asked ! ​
>
> ​I was apparently confounding the name of the package manager with the old
> Strawberry flavor  https://metacpan.org/pod/Perl::Dist::Chocolate , no  -y
> .
>
> Googling my own answer,
> alias (Adam Kennedy) eoy2007 "Vanilla and Strawberry (and Chocolate) Perl
> 2008 Plans <http://use.perl.org/use.perl.org/article0ed4.html>"
>
> > This class of user is going to want/need a richer, bloatier distribution,
> > with GUIs for most functionality, and a large "core library" of modules
> > available out of the box. As an environment it needs to be far more
> > approachable.
> >
> > I've previously called this concept "Chocolate Perl", and it can be
> > loosely defined as being "Strawberry + Modules + GUI Tools".
> >
>
> ​and bdf 2014 https://www.windowsperl.com/2014/01/10/strawberry-perl/
>
> > The January 2009 [Strawberry Perl] release added a fully portable “Perl
> on
> > a stick” version that included a Perl program to fix up paths based on
> > where it was installed.
> >
> > Strawberry Perl was supposed to lead to Chocolate Perl, something
> enhanced
> > even further for people who were familiar with Windows but not Perl. It
> > would include GUI tools and other niceties to avoid the command line (See
> > Vanilla and Strawberry (and Chocolate) Perl 2008 Plans).
> >
> > The Strawberry brand was enough for most people. In 2010 Curtis Jewell
> > created “Strawberry Perl Professional” as an enhanced distribution with
> big
> > frameworks, such as Catalyst, and task oriented sets of modules, such as
> > BioPerl. There are other distributions built on top of Strawberry Perl,
> > such as DWIM Perl, that add GUI tools.
> >
> ​
> ​So it sounds like DWIM Perl ​was a resurrection of Chocolate that stalled
> more recently (2012, Perl 5.14) but still stalled. (​Even bdf's win-perl
> blog https://www.windowsperl.com/ is stuck in 2016.)
>
> So yes, it does look like Strawberry Perl (direct with choice of MSI, ZIP,
> Portable Perl-on-a-Stick, or PDL; or via Chocolatey) is the only 5.26
> choice for Windows (besides build from source): no bundled gui nor
> monster-module-list.
>
> [ Although one might presume the commercial/community "freemium" ActivePerl
> will update from 5.24 soon ?   ActiveState at least has (had, i presume
> still has) a package manager so many things not installed initially are
> easier to add than CPAN via Windows. ]
>
> One could take a list of what modules DWIM and Chocolate layered on (if
> only by dumping your DWIM lib ) and use local::lib and/or cpanm to install
> them (provided you have the matching mingw compiler for anything fancy).
>
> ( I do like that Strawberry offers a PDL Perl alternative install. )
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Ricker
> [email protected]
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux
>
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