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On 9/14/06, Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> AVG is 15K, I can prove *on my own* 12K... counting banking/phishing
> trojan horses, general purpose trojans, dialers, etc (from the large bot
> families).

So... by both your and Jose's definitions Banker.Delf is a bot?  A
dialer is a bot?  A downloader is a bot? An Explorer Hijack is a bot?

A phishing email is a bot?

I'm sorry, but while I believe botnets (particularly those controlled
via HTTP(S) which follow protocol standards) are a serious problem -
your numbers don't ring true to the fairly large set of samples I see
under my definition of a bot.  They don't seem to be ringing true with
some of other people either.  In fact, to me, they sound a lot like
hype.

2,000-3,000 a month of true connection oriented and non-connection
oriented bots (IRC vs. HTTP & custom protocol) which are capable of
receiving and acting on multiple commands are what I'm seeing.  This
would include the "classic" bot/zombie, the http and custom protocol
bot/zombie and some RATs.

So saying you have a 12" penis may in fact be true and yes... it might
even make me feel a little insecure about my smaller manhood.  But not
if your talking about a piece of plastic.
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