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Wonder how/if this would have solved the situation Cox NOC faced a
couple of weeks back.  As a Cox subscriber at home, I would have
welcomed it because it would have eased the drag on access... and of
course hopefully I'm not one of those users who get pulled.

Larry Kettlewell

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Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:03 PM
To: Gadi Evron; [email protected]
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One approach is to de-activate the customer's network access
and hope they call the ISP customer support. When you de-activate, you
put a notation against the customer account that they have a
BOT/infection.
Most ISP/business have decent CRM systems that allow you to put text
notations against
a customer account. We told the reps to have the customer install
Anti-Virus software.

You control the deactivation rate, so you can control the flow of calls
to the customer support team.
It increases the cost of customer support but is a nice way of not
having to call the customer.

We did this and it works quite well at 10 customers a day. The problem
is when the customer
continue to get re-infected. Its a little frustating to the customer but
the process seems to work.
There is no compliance checking model, once the customer calls we
re-activate their access.
We deactivate after a couple of days if they still show signs of
infection.

Ashish


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Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 7:46 AM
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Subject: [botnets] QoS and bot traffic
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How can this be done using today's technology? Does it require re-design
of hardware or new systems to be designed? I hope to find out and get a
proposal ready,

        Gadi.

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