I don't know who came up with the $500 battery.  I thought I paid a bit over 
$100 to have the battery in my BN replaced! I had other things done to my unit 
on other occasions but I don't think I paid that much for a battery change! I'd 
get the facts from people who have sent in their units for a battery change and 
surely there will be people from the conventions who can speak to this issue.

Jim Aldrich

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stanley Littrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
>Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 11:41:17 -0700
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Risks Indeed!

>I'm not thrilled with the prospect of paying 500 dollars for a
>replacement battery.  We can decide whether or not we want to buy a
>given product.  There were obviously problems with another competing
>product or they would have continued to offer a user replaceable
>battery.  I would settle with things the way that they are rather
>than to buy a unit only to find out that they are able to offer a
>newer board with a battery replacement later that possibly has
>problems.  Over all, I've been happy with the battery on the
>braillenote.  As a number have wisely observed, this is not a
>laptop.  If you don't like the battery that they choose to use, don't
>buy the product or spent money on the upgrade.  It is as simple as
>that.  I wish our adaptive products were cheaper.  We can wish in one
>hand and spit in the other and see which one fills up the fastest.

>Regards, everyone.  Have a great holiday.At 11:12 AM 7/3/2005, you wrote:
>>The battery fits in there now? So it should not be hard to compartment it so
>>at least a user can change the darn thing.


>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Alexander
>>Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 8:55 AM
>>To: Braillenote List
>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Risks Indeed!

>>Once again, we are not speaking about apples, & apples.  The BN family has
>>battery life far supperior to a laptop, which gets 6/8 hours at the maximum.

>>The BN is able to run for well over 18 hours!  Having a replaceable battery
>>may be a good idea, but now we begin to talk about extra bagggage that has
>>to be carried?  Maybe I can find a good source of luggage, with wheels, to
>>accomodate all this stuff?

>>Bruce

>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Keith Bucher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: <[email protected]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:59 PM
>>Subject: [Braillenote] Risks Indeed!


>>> Why is it that nearly every commercial manufacturer of notebook
>>> computers offers user replaceable batteries?  The more power a computer
>>> draws, the more important it is to have a user replaceable battery.
>>> Recently, I saw the following quote from a message by Mike May on the
>>> Gps-Talk list:  "We have enhanced the manual route creation software.
>>> You can now designate manual waypoints as Straight, Left or Right.  You
>>> can add custom descriptions like 4-way intersection or "slight bend in
>>> path."This makes routes created across a campus or in the woods
>>> extremely versatile."

>>>    What hapens when you're in the woods and your nonuser replaceable
>>> battery goes south?  Belly Up?  Dead?  Runs out?  Sure, maybe Freedom
>>> Scientific didn't get it right the first time, but at least they
>>> tried.  From what I can determine, Humanware has no product for which
>>> one can replace the battery.

>>>    I saw a question the other day from someone asking what it would
>>> cost to get a battery installed at one of the consumer conventions.
>>> Then I saw a price of $500.00.  This price doesn't even deserve a
>>> comment.
>>> Jonathan, as you said, "Remember, these devices draw much more power
>>> than does a mobile phone or MP3 player."  I totally agree.  In which
>>> case, wouldn't it be even more important to have a replaceable battery?

>>>    And another thing.  I know that the Braille Sense is new and has
>>>    some bugs, and doesn't yet have the popularity of the braillenote
>>>    family.  But by golly, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm
>>>    giving Dan and Doug credit where credit's due.  At least they
>>>    are starting out on the right track.  They're giving us the
>>>    independence and portability of  having a replaceable battery.
>>>    Something Humanware has never done, whether it be the Keynote
>>>    Gold, Braille Displays, or the Braillenote family of Products.

>>>    The more battery power any item consumes, the more important it is
>>>    to be able to replace the battery.  Remember Mike's example of the
>>>    walk in the woods?  You might also be on a downdown
>>> street in a major city when that nonreplaceable battery goes dry.  If
>>> you're unfortunate enough to be at the aCB convention, you'd
>>> better hope you have enough cold water until you're rescued by UPS.

>>>    It boggles my mind how a company can come up with a
>>>    device with so many enhancements as the Braillenote, but yet be so
>>>    hamstrung when it comes to common sense.  No, not Braille Sense, but
>>> common Portability Sense.  Is it portable or isn't it?

>>>    How about it guys?  Did it really cost $500 when you got those
>>> batteries replaced at the consumer conventions this summer?


>>> Keith Bucher


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