I had to laugh at your comment about jaws not working during a problem mine
does it too2ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF A RECOVERY FEATURE WHICH I
THINK WINDOWS HAS IF YOU DUMP YOUR FILE  YOU can do a recover feature and it
would  find it for you.  I thought  back in the day win 95 had something
like this and my xp just has m s works not word, and i have never set it upp
so have no idea what is in there. I thought of it though because i wrote
down some info this weekend thought i'd saved it only to have it be gone
now, my bn has been off several times bhetween now and then so this type of
thing may not work anyway in my case. IT was something small so just had
someone reread it and made sure this time to save it.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicole Torcolini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] keysoft or windows


>     I would like to see more defaults everywhere.  I get tired of
switching
> to line reading mode every time I create a new file and I always use the
> same network configuration.
>     Also, I used windows before using Keysoft.  However, I like Keysoft
> better.  It is simpler, that's about all I can say.  I don't know how to
> explain it, but it just seems to come more naturally than windows.  Also,
I
> always know what my BN is doing.  When something goes wrong in windows,
it's
> so hard to figure out what's wrong, and that's always when JAWS decides
not
> to work.
>
> Nicole
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 1:50 PM
> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] keysoft or windows
>
>
> I would also like to see the following change.  I would like to always
> see a list of all files in a folder.  I would like to be able to set
> this as my default.  Certainly it shouldn't be everyone's default, but I
> would simply like to have that option.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard
> Ring
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:50 PM
> To: Braillenote List
> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] keysoft or windows
>
>
> Frankly, the main change I would like to see is the ability to open
> files from within the "file manager" and I would like to see a cut down
> on some of the repetitive messaging.
> For example, if I wish  to visit a web site, each and every time I wish
> to visit a site, I will be asked which configuration I wish to use in
> order to connect, even if I only have one such configuration created.
> I think the real problem I have with File Manager is that rather than
> allowing the user to simply scroll through a file list and make any
> changes he/she might like to make, the only thing you can do while in
> that list is to check the size and the last modified date of a file.
> I would like to be able to delete, copy, rename, move etc right from
> that initial list of files.  Insofar as being intuitive, I would say
> that the Braillenote is easy to teach because it is extremely consistent
> and all actions are menu driven.  I wouldn't change that, I just want a
> file manager that doesn't require me to go to a menu each and every time
> I want to take an action on a file.  I am probably making things too
> Windows-like for the rest of the folks on this list, so I'll never get
> my wish (smile)
> That's ok, you can't always get want you want
> But if you try sometimes, you just might find you get what you need!
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:22 PM
> To: Braillenote List
> Subject: [Braillenote] keysoft or windows
>
>
> Hi folks,
> There has been a thread under  the topic of suggestions for keysoft.
> Some people have expressed a desire that the interface look more like
> windows, while others are seriously opposed to such changes. I have
> never
> owned a braille note, although I'd like to get a voice note and gps. I
> understand that back when the note family was introduced, not many blind
> people were familiar with Windows. Most of us dos users did not go
> quietly into the Windows world, and the learning curve was steep for
> ost, myself definitely among them. Its been said that the keysoft
> interface is intuitive flr blind people. My sense is that peoples'
> reactions to this
> whole notion of changing the interface has to do with what we are
> familiar with and what is intuitive for us because of familiarity. It
> strikes me that not  being able to open files from the file manager is
> certainly not
> intuitive. Would those of you who don't want the Windows interface
> agree? As a non-user of the Note family of products, and as one who is
> fairly familiar with Windows, I admit that I find the idea of learning a
>
> nonstandard proprietary interface, which I won't be able to use anywhere
> else somewhat off putting. and please, nobody suggest that people who
> want windows should buy the compeditive products, which may have
> other serious shortcomings. For those of you who like the present
> interface, what would you say are advantages over Windows? Lack of
> multitasking is a disadvantage, as is not being able to open files from
> within the
> manager. Context sensitive help is good, but its not interface
> dependent. You can have that sort of help regardless of interface. So,
> what's good about the keysoft interface that you don't feel is present
> or is not
> efficient in a more Windows-like interface?
> Mary.
>
>
>
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