Yes, my friend, this is a question I have asked before.  Why when sometimes you 
send a message is nothing there? No, I forgot what I was going to say in the 
beginning.  I am curious why blank messages get sent.

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>From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Braillenote List <[email protected]
>Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:11:21 -0700
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] My findings on pk programming potential

>Hi Rhonda,

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>Andy


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>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Vega, Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
>>Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 13:20:12 -0700
>>Subject: [Braillenote] My findings on pk programming potential

>>This is so you won't have to go dig in the bp archives Hello to all

>>I am an IT Support Specialist who owns a Braille note pk.  I work with
>>many different operating systems, and there for feel vary limited on
>>what the pk offers in functionality, especially because of what is the
>>potential I see for this thing.

>>Well, last night I got fed up and said no more! There for I spent five
>>hours to learn what this thing was about.
>>Now, allot of people will just take any companies word when they say
>>"nope, you can't do that with our product", and just stop in their
>>tracks.  Well, I often prove the impossible to be possible and I will
>>explain my findings.

>>Lets take a disclaimer brake k????
>>Please note:
>>My comments and/or opinions in this email in any way shape or form are
>>not in anyway ment to damage humanware, or discredit humanware, only to
>>compliment humanware and really let them know that they're developers
>>out here that see the potential for their products and know that they
>>could do so much more.
>>---end disclaimer---

>>Now the findings....
>>So I use a Braille note pk with the keysoft 6 build 26 and windows ce
>>4.20.  I am a developer, I have done commercial work from time to time
>>but mainly a hobbiest now.  I write in the major low level and mid
>>level languages, and well, feel that I have what it takes for
>>programming for these things.
>>Let me explain a little to you about what the internals of the pk
>>and/or the bn line is.  Please note:This information I give is public
>>information, I, in anyway, am not giving out confidential information
>>just information that was found out by just "putting two and two
>>together".

>>Keysoft is a shell to windows ce, as explorer is a shell to windows.
>>We currently have a 400mhz processor in our pk's and 32? Or 64? Of ram
>>and 32? Or 64? Of flash disk.  We run a standard windows ce os, so
>>there is no reason why we can't program for the platform with regular
>>tools and I'll explain why.
>>In the "utilities menu" off the main menu, there in an option called
>>"application program" witch lets you run (in theory, says humanware but
>>really isn't implemented right now) it presents you with the standard
>>"choose file to" and lets you browse file directories to find a program
>>to run.  Well.....
>>The program I downloaded and test for about five hours was called:
>>Pocket putty
>>http://pocketputty.duxy.net

>>Witch is a windows ce version of the popular putty for windows, witch
>>is used to interface with unix/linux boxes from windows.  Now......
>>When you open a program you wish to run, you get presented with a text
>>input prompt that says "command line?" witch is asking what switches
>>you would like to run with this program.
>>Since I have none, I just hit enter right??? wrong.  Cause with the
>>pocket putty on my Ipaq, the first screen is a "connection screen" and
>>you type the ip or host name you want to connect to.  And so, I believe
>>if that horrid "command line " prompt didn't appear, I would be able to
>>interact with the program directly.
>>Unfortunately, the "pdi" that human ware use to be was miss leading
>>when they told some one on here that there was no way to code for the
>>platform cause you had to talk to the display and speech chip and I'll
>>tell you why.
>>Now, if I left the command line prompt blank, my pk would just sit
>>there as if nothing happened.  But anything I enter, be it a word, or
>>ip the command line prompt takes the first char I enter and takes it as
>>a switch, well....  Kind of , but putty takes it as the host I am
>>trying to enter and tries to connect to "1" instead of the "192.x.x.x"
>>that I typed in.  now, if the information was true witch some one said
>>on here that the program would essentially run silent was true, I
>>wouldn't received a error directly from putty wanting me to choose a
>>choice on how to proceed.
>>Now, in order to explain this, I hit every letter in the alphabet, and
>>when I typed a "n" the pk said "no" and when I hit "I" the pk said
>>"ignore" and when I hit "y" the pk said "yes".  Now this tells me that
>>there are three buttons in a dialogue I have choices to choose.  And I
>>verified this with my ipaq.

>>Granted, this is as far as I got, and let me conclude by saying what we
>>learned.
>>1.  keysoft is only a shell such as explorer is and has potential to be
>>improved.
>>2.  since we run a normal ce os, we should be able to just code in c or
>>c++or what ever and create programs.
>>3.  essentially an sdk is not needed from my research, maybe some
>>instructions or documentation on how to interface with keysoft.
>>4.  I will write a program for windows ce tonight in c and see how it
>>works hout in different environments.
>>5.  the program directly sends information to the display and the
>>speech chip I come to this conclusion  this cause it sent me an error
>>message to my display that the pk fully interacted with.


>>Gabe Vega
>>Technical Support Specialist
>>Information Services Unit
>>Arizona Industries for the Blind
>>CellPhone:(602) 488-9862


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