Hi all,

I'm not in for "I agree" messages but feel I should back Jim here
wholeheartedly and also add that we all have different needs and
desires.  We use our email on the BN for reading and writing whilst
relaxing and, again, often keep things on our server to retrieve for
saving on the computer.  We don't keep much mail on our BN.  If we don't
keep mail on the server there's always the option to forward to
ourselves.  It works well for us and we wouldn't be without the
facility.  I love writing personal long, chatty messages to friends this
way and find I get almost totally excellent translation.

You have nothing to lose to give it a try and everything to gain from
more use of your BN.


--
Carol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James
Aldrich
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:38 AM
To: Braillenote List
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] differences between Keymail, OE and Pine


To keep the record straight, Pine is a dos program.  It was a good
program 
in its day.  Perhaps Linex may come up with something similar, but it
has a 
different way of taking care of things.  I'd recommend you try the
keymail 
program for yourself before making judgement on it.  It may not have all

the frills of what you are use to but it does a respectable job.  Give
it a 
try!

If you are reading an Email, you can reply to it right then and there or

you can save it to your own individual folder which you create to act on

later.  The best way to save Email you wish to keep is to save it to a
file 
which can be done while you are in an Email message.  You then can place

that file on any drive you care to as a CF or SD card, thumb drive etc.
Of 
course, any such files can be moved to your PC.  If you wish to pass on 
that file you saved, simply paste it in the text of another Email.  If
you 
are writing an Email and you are interrupted, you can place it in the 
drafts folder to act on at a more convenient time.  Quite often I'm
writing 
something and I need to check on or look up some information.  I can do
so 
and go back to my piece of Email which I placed in the drafts folder and

continue writing where I left off till I'm ready to send Email.  One may

act upon multiple Emails at once thanks to the Email Action Menu.  I
often 
leave my Email on the server so I can download it on my PC later.  If I 
have 200 Emails in my in box and I have read all of them, I cqan go into

the Email action menu (spacebar with dots 2 6) on a BT keyboard and type

the letter A to mark all!  I then can move all of them easily to the
trash 
where they are deleted.  I believe one can mark one or more Email
messages 
for a specific action if one doesn't wish to act on all messages.

As they say life goes on.  When I get a new computer, I'll need to learn

outlook express instead of using Eudora as I do now on my PC.  That's
the 
way it goes sometimes!  One must change how things are done once one 
changes PCS, notetakers etc.  That's life.  I'm not asking any of you to

like Keymail but I think if you become proficient with it, you will find
it 
really can come in handy at times.  It is nice to sit back on my couch,
lie 
in bed or go outside and send and receive Email.  If I wish, I can
listen 
to music in the background, my choice!  Just give it a try!  Don't rely 
totally on what you read on this list, try it yourself and really make
up 
your own mind for yourself!

Jim Aldrich

At 01:12 PM 11/15/2005 , you wrote:
>Hi Terri;
>Does this mean you have to read a block of messages, stop incoming mail
>and then respond to those you want or save or delete them.  You mean
you 
>cann't proform any tasks while in the  e-mail.  Sounds like it is
easier 
>on the computer.  Maybe I will not need internet coverage.
>As you can see, I have never done e-mail.
>Can I highlite a block of e-mails, put them on a cf card and read them
on 
>the BT?
>I don't know if it would put a bunch in one file.  I guess you could 
>delete an e-mail, line by line or block it.
>Let me know what you think.
>I am trying to braille BT commands I want to save and delete junk
e-mails.
>terry Powers
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Terri Pannett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:25 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [Braillenote] differences between Keymail, OE and Pine
>
>
>Dear List,
>
>Although Keymail has improved breatly, there are 6  things which bother

>me.
>
>First, email programs like OE and Pine allow you to stay online and 
>send a message immediately after writing it.  But as long as you are 
>reading email, Keymail won't do this.
>
>Second, OE and Pine will allow you to view the body of an attachment 
>when you open it.  Keymail shows all this return-path and other header 
>stuff and you must wade through it before you can read the body of the 
>attachment. This is true when you detach and save the attachment to 
>open and read it later.
>
>Third, there is far too much duplication with Keymail.  If I move an 
>email to another folder, it's saved in 3 folders.  OE and Pine only 
>save messages to one folder.  Since email hogs database space, it seems

>stupid for Keymail to have all this duplication.
>
>Fourth, both OE and Pine will allow you to press enter on a link in an 
>email and IE or Lynx will open automatically and bring up the URL.  
>Keymail should really have this feature, too.  When we press enter on a

>URL, Keyweb should automatically open and bring up the web site.
>
>I miss the days when Keyterm was a part of Keysoft and I could use Pine

>instead of Keymail.  Although Keymail has greatly improved, I still 
>think I'd rather use Pine with my BN than Keymail.
>
>Fifth, Keymail always shows the subject in computer braille, but if I 
>use my PC and WindowEyes, I can read it in grade 2 braille and I can 
>read the subject line in grade 2 braille using my old DOS PC, too.  I 
>can understand why most of the header is in computer braille, but why 
>can't Keysoft be changed so the subject line can be read in grade 2 
>braille?
>
>Sixth, Keymail can only do one thing at a time.  Bot OE and Pine allow 
>you to read, write and receive/send email without needing to close and 
>open tasks through a menu.
>
>Keymail is good for occasional use, but I will probably use my PC's for

>email.
>
>Terri, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.  Army MARS call sign AAT9PX, 
>California
>
>
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