That's okay. You learn by experimenting. I'm amazed at how much I learn each time I re read a section of the manual. However I have a theory about the paragraph thing that I'll have to ask my mom about. I know that when you right research papers that there are two lines between paragraphs. I'm not sure if this is a standard rule when writing hand written documents. I'll ask then let you know. If it turns out that there are two spaces, then we're in the wrong and its not a bug.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 3:09 PM To: Braillenote List Subject: Re: [Braillenote] paragraphs Ah, Sarai Now I have to admit I was wrong about that demo document. Yup. It had two manually inserted spaces at each paragraph point. My excuse is that as I was so new with everything at that point, I didn't notice that. LOL. But I guess I learned a lot in exploring options in an attempt to fix a problem that wasn't there. I'll still stand by the idea that paragraph boundary and formatting defined as new line should also indicate a paragraph, but maybe that would conflict with something else. Lists? I won't go there. So, I'm off to wash the egg off my face. Humanware can keep smiling at us when we're the problem. Smile. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:09 PM Subject: RE: [Braillenote] paragraphs > Go check the default settings on that demo document. I tried it > indenting at 0 and manually putting the paragraph spaces after > indenting twice and couldn't get it to work. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean > Menzies > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:43 PM > To: Braillenote List > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] paragraphs > > > It will work right with indent set to 0 if you use two returns. > > If paragraph movement functions only work correctly with the indent > first line set to 2, then why is the default 0? I found it odd that > the Demonstration document provided on the mPower said it was created > using > the default settings and the paragraph reading mode worked there. > Hmm. > When reading that document, they only had one carriage return. If I > interpret that right, then they had one return and a first line indent > of 0. But that certainly doesn't work for me. Makes no sense to me. > > Jean > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sarai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:21 AM > Subject: RE: [Braillenote] paragraphs > > >> I'll try it with two lines and indent set to 0 and see if I get what >> you do. It works with paragraph indent set to two in the layout mode >> of the >> document. Let me try it the other way >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean >> Menzies >> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:14 PM >> To: Braillenote List >> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] paragraphs >> >> >> Hi Sarai >> >> Yes, that seems to be the only way to do it. But if I manually put >> in > >> the spaces, then they extend the blank space on the display and I >> don't like that as I only have the 18-cell. I'll try the layout >> indent first line to 2 and see if that makes it more readable for my >> liking. But as >> Steve rightly said, having to put two carriage returns in isn't the >> best >> >> solution either as it puts blank lines in an embossed document. So, >> I > >> gather there are ways to do this, but I still think it needs a bit of >> fixing from Humanware in the next release. Again, that paragraph >> boundary of N for next line should be enough to tell it that a single >> carriage return marks a paragraph. Just my thoughts on for me what >> is > >> a >> >> bit of a frustrating issue. >> >> Jean >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sarai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:14 AM >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] paragraphs >> >> >>> Hey Jean, >>> I haven't been keeping up with your problem so let me see if I'm >>> right. You can move by paragraphs in other Braille documents, but >>> can't in ones that your creating, right? If so, try this: >>> 1. Translation set up options, put paragraph boundary to indented or >>> blank line. The second setting put interpret larger boundaries as >>> paragraphs, put no. Make sure your asky translation options also >>> say >>> paragraph format. >>> 2. Create a blank document. If you have the format settings as >>> indent >>> first line of paragraph as 0 unchanged, you can change it to two, or >>> leave it alone, and hit enter, putting the two spaces manually as >>> required. Usually this is what I do unless it's a majorly formal >>> document I'm working on >>> I just tried it and I had success with changing the layout to indent >>> first line of paragraph to two. >>> Let me know if any of this works. Contact me off list for more >>> help.. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean >>> Menzies >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:42 AM >>> To: Braillenote List >>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] paragraphs >>> >>> >>> Hi Terri >>> >>> Thanks for the idea, but it didn't fix my problem. I've even tried >>> setting the default file type to creat to a plain braille file, BRF, >>> with the same results. Within a braille document I create, I can >>> only >> >>> move by paragraph if I use two returns between paragraphs or put in >>> two manual spaces. Ug, this shouldn't be that hard to solve. >>> >>> Jean >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 3:18 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] paragraphs >>> >>> >>>> Go to the forward translation list and look for "paragraph." Type >>>> the command for hard return then press the space bar twice. >>>> >>>> Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign >>>> AAT9PX, California >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Rhonda Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "BrailleNote List" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 5:55 PM >>>> Subject: [Braillenote] paragraphs >>>> >>>> >>>>> Jean, I can tell you that if you use one carriage return and space >>>>> twice after that, you'll see a paragraph. 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