Hello,
I sent my unit in a couple of years ago, and with shipping it 2 day ground 
insuring it for $6,000 it cost me approximately $50.00.
Robert

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Paul Henrichsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Braillenote List <[email protected]
>Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:53:34 -0700
>Subject: RE: A sort of retracktion orqualificationwas-RE:[Braillenote]Gou 
>gingthe blind community

>Actually, it costs near 80 dollars to send your bn to humanware UPS
>overnight or next day air.  You should also insure it for its value as well.
>That's part of the cost.
>Fed ex would be even worse.

>At 9/13/2005, you wrote:

>>In the long run we are lucky we even have shipping.  How would you like to
>>have to fly to CA to pick up your BN.  In the long run, we sure are saving a
>>lot having the items shipped.  What is the difference between about $300
>>from the east coast and a charge of $45.
>>Look at the bright side not always the negative.

>>Terry Powers


>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Bray, Terry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:28 AM
>>To: Braillenote List
>>Subject: RE: A sort of retracktion or
>>qualificationwas-RE:[Braillenote]Gougingthe blind community


>>Bravo: added to that the cost of fuel weather they ship express weather
>>they insure.

>>Sorry folks this is a totally ridiculous subject.  This has absolutely
>>nothing to do with blindness and unless your willing to ship through the
>>mail your going to pay for it.  HumanWare does not dictate to the
>>shipping company how much they need to charge and the shipper hardly
>>gives a dam weather you can see or not.  Your dealing with equipment that
>>cost thousands not a book or a compact flash card this is about blind
>>people thinking they should get things for nothing.  45 is really not a
>>lot to pay for insured currier services.  At least I assume its insured
>>however when you are dealing with what is technically fragile expensive
>>equipment its better to be safe than sorry.



>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarai
>>Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:58 PM
>>To: 'Braillenote List'
>>Subject: RE: A sort of retracktion or
>>qualificationwas-RE:[Braillenote]Gougingthe blind community


>>Rusty,
>>No matter what you buy, you'll have to pay shipping.  I had to pay it
>>when I bought my Dell computer.  Our church had to pay it when they
>>bought a $3000 tape machine.  The price doesn't matter.  Your still going
>>to pay shipping.

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Perez
>>Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 5:40 PM
>>To: 'Braillenote List'
>>Subject: RE: A sort of retracktion or qualification
>>was-RE:[Braillenote]Gougingthe blind community


>>Virgie, I'm not asking for a free lunch, particularly because I'm blind.
>>I am saying that I'm paying thousands of dollars for the equipment, to
>>tack on a $45 charge seems some how insulting.
>>WE aren't going to agree on this, and some people don't mind throwing
>>money around.  I felt nickled and dimed.




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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of VIRGIE
>>UNDERWOOD
>>Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 3:10 PM
>>To: Braillenote List
>>Subject: Re: A sort of retracktion or qualification was-RE:
>>[Braillenote]Gougingthe blind community

>>Hey friend,
>>There is no free lunch.
>>Amazon has many more shoppers than does Humanware and other companies
>>who sell Braille Notetakers to the blind.  The real truth is that we have
>>to pay shipping costs and insurance costs just like the rest of the
>>world.  Blindness does not give us special treatment for shipping on
>>products.  Grin! Virgie Underwood
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Rusty Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]
>>Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 5:51 PM
>>Subject: A sort of retracktion or qualification was-RE: [Braillenote]
>>Gougingthe blind community


>>> Please understand me folks,
>>> I like my BN and I'm glad that humanware is offering the transplant
>>> program.  They didn't have to.  I also am aware that there's not much
>>> money in
>>this.

>>> What I'm talking about is the feeling of anger that I felt when I
>>> called, knowing that the cost of the machine is one thing, but that
>>> there are other things tacked on to it.  You'll laugh at this, but I
>>> would have been happy if I felt like I got

>>> something for nothing.  If they had said, the cost is X and shipping is

>>> free!
>>> Wow, I would have felt like I came out ahead.  I know, it's silly.  :-)

>>> Anyway, don't come down on me too hard.  I love my BN, I'm getting the
>>> new one.  I just feel nickled and dimed.

>>> Rusty



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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarai
>>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:59 PM
>>> To: 'Braillenote List'
>>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Gouging the blind community

>>> Uh,
>>> No, shipping costs have gone up especially due to fuel costs.  Shipping

>>> for everything isn't absorbed by product price  charges.  They also
>>> insure the product when shipping.  They won't charge your card till the

>>> work is done but will take your number down.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty
>>> Perez
>>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 2:28 PM
>>> To: 'Braillenote List'
>>> Subject: [Braillenote] Gouging the blind community


>>> Hi folks,
>>> I just called to get myself on the transplant list.  I would have done
>>> it sooner, but I was under the impression, given to me by a customer
>>> service person, that they would charge my card immediately, not when
>>> the work was done.

>>> Anyway, I got myself on the list, but I was surprised that I would be
>>> charged $45 for shipping.  I was charged $15 to ship my keysoft 6.1
>>> upgrade, and that was shipped in a completely non secure padded
>>> envelope, not weighing more than maybe 12 ounces.

>>> So, what's the deal here.  If I by over $25.00 worth of stuff, Amazon
>>> gives me free shipping.  So how come Humanware can't ship for free when

>>> we blind folks drop $2000 or more on their products? And they're
>>> probably going to resell my old BN classic and make more money! You'd
>>> think they'd at least fold the cost of shipping in to the total cost
>>> of the product, making themselves look magnanimous, and better than
>>> the competition.  We'll all even have to pay to ship our old units back

>>> in.

>>> It's a bit obscene to me.  If I asked for upgraded shipping, I'd
>>> understand; Amazon charges for that.  There's nothing to be done about
>>> it, this is pretty much a closed market and we can't go any where
>>> else, but down, but I just want to register my disgust.

>>> Rusty


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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarai
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:10 AM
>>> To: 'Braillenote List'
>>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braillenote and networking

>>> Just find your network settings and hit backspace with lower g to
>>> delete record.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty
>>> Perez
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 3:12 AM
>>> To: 'Braillenote List'
>>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braillenote and networking


>>> How and or where can I delete the network settings?

>>> Thanks!
>>> Rusty



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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarai
>>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 7:55 AM
>>> To: 'Braillenote List'
>>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braillenote and networking

>>> Just go delete the network settings from your BN and start over.  Make
>>> sure your computer is set for a network.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty
>>> Perez
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:35 PM
>>> To: 'Braillenote List'
>>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braillenote and networking


>>> Hi Sarai,
>>> Thanks for the great step by step.
>>> Unfortunately, it didn't work.
>>> I went through the stepts as you outlined.  Before though, I didn't get

>>> the network connected.  That is, I didn't "turn on" wireless.  So,
>>> things started just beeping.  Then, I figured it out.  After that, I
>>> started the wireless.  I
>>> know because I'm able to surf the web.  But, when I try to "brouse
>>network"

>>> I
>>> just get endless beeping.  One possibility could be that maybe I
>>> misbrailled the user name or password.  Is there a way to change or
>>> check this?

>>> Thanks!
>>> Rusty



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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarai
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:57 AM
>>> To: 'Braillenote List'
>>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braillenote and networking

>>> Okay,
>>> You can do this.  I'm using a BN BT w/ 6.1 and an XP machine with Jaws
>>> so my instructions will be for that Machine.  You also need your user
>>> name and log on pass word, as well as your server name.  Your server
>>> name is found under settings  control panel, system and then shift tab

>>> to computer name and use Jaws cursor to read the needed info.  Now that

>>> you have all your info, do the
>>> following: 1.  Select network from the drive list 2.  At network place,
>>> hit space twice 3.  Press enter on browse entire network 4.  At the
>>> network server prompt, type in the name, make sure its spelled
>>> correctly.  5.  If your computer asks you to log in, here is where you
>>> type in the name and pass word.  Don't forget to use compute r Braille
>>> 6.
>>> Press space with e and it will ask to save password or user name.
>>> 8.  Then you will be asked to update the log in info.
>>> If yes, then you'll get a warning about saving it , but if you say yes

>>> then you won't need to log in again.  I said yes because I['m
>>> connecting to my personal PC.
>>> 9.  Now you can type in the name of the network folder, or hit space to

>>> search for it.  On mine, I see something like shared documents.
>>> 11.  You'll hear network place and then the folder name.  Either type
>>> another folder name, or hit enter.  Now your in the same folder
>>> structure as normal.
>>> 12.  Now you can access it now that you have everything set up.

>>> Hope this helps.


>>> Make sure your wireless card is in and wireless is on.


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty
>>> Perez
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:11 PM
>>> To: 'Braillenote List'
>>> Subject: [Braillenote] Braillenote and networking


>>> Hi folks,
>>>    I'm new on the list, though I've had my bn for a long time.
>>>    I'm just beginning to use the BrailleNote wirelessly.
>>>    I have a wireless home network.  What I'd like to do is create files
>>> on my
>>>    BN, then save them to another machine, the only other machine, on
>>the
>>>    network.  Then, of course, edit them with the other computer.  Now, I
>>>    understand that I must save in word format ETC.
>>>    What I'd like to know is how to configure things so that the BN
>>> will see the
>>>    disk on the other machine so I can save to it.
>>>    Any thoughts?
>>>    Thanks!
>>>    Rusty


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